Stayed Too Long

If'n I am thinking of the same gal, she was on staff with the Way of Kansas in 78. I was in the 9th Corp at the time and spent Christmas break with her at her home. She was a wonderful woman.

Where are those stingray's with the shape tails when you need one?

I just bid $15,001. I can't image anyone not wanting to know the precise loction of heaven. Now I will know exactly where I will (or maybe, won't) be spending eternity.

Confesses to another murder. Click 'Get Image' after web page appears for new murder confession.

Seth I hope you have reported this to the authorities?

What would be the down side of him being found by an unloving man and the up side of being found by a loving man? Just curious.

I agree. Ermel Owns and Harry Wierwille had to have known what was going on, yet they receive rave reviews from ex-twi folk here at GSC. Their wive's must have known something fishy was in the works also, but they also get a pass. Emogene Allen and Wanda Wierwille I doubt were clueless either. Yet Donna is fair game but no other trustee wife is held in such contempt. I think the reason Donna is fair game is because she said some pretty wicked things about people. If she had kept her mug shut, probably she would be held up on a pedestal also.

Looking at the standings this could be shaping up to be another "Subway Series" as both the Mets and Yanks have .610 pct. With about 40 games left anything could happen though as injuries could have an impact. Detroit is looking pretty good in the Central Division with .640 pct though.

Either all 3 are gay......or the top is gay, the 2nd is bi, and the 3rd is female. See how much easier it was back in Archie Bunker's day when, "men were men, and girls were girls, and you knew who you were then?" Course even then in Montana often times it was, "Men were men. Women were scarce. And sheep were scared"!! Maybe the times haven't changed that much after all.

When I was 9 my dad died suddenly of a heart attack. Afterwards I overheard my mom telling relatives she might have to give up my sister, brother, and me up for adoption because she did not believe she could raise us by herself. I believed I would never see my mom, brother, or sister again. I am sure this was just said in a moment of grief, because she never did try to adopt us out, but it was devastating for me to hear. I also had a habit of biting my finger nails and was promised by my folks, if I would quit chewing them, they would buy me a horse. I had finally let them grow out and we were going to pick out a horse the very weekend my dad died. My mom decided to sell the farm and move into town so a horse was out of the question. Two 9/11 type events to happen to a 9 year old.

Isn't it wonderful to realize you can take all those shattered pieces and sculpt a life that is you? Once I fugured out it was really possible to change my life, it maked meeting each day much easier. And the truly great aspect is once you acquire the skills necessary, you can use them everyday to accomplish goals and dreams never thought possible. Just little things like smiling at more people and saying thank you. And big things like deciding to return to school, or change jobs, or get over being shy, or become dynamic in a relationship. You have a great road a head of you!!

Ground breaking begins on new stadium.

Wonderful you have completed your master's and glad we could add a little to your accomplishment. I am returning to complete my BS this fall. In a few years I too will be able to exclaim "mission accomplished". ohhh where have I heard that before??

or at the police station having his mug shot taken after running the Jews down while partaking of a few brewskis.

I was a twig coordinator for a number of years and came down pretty hard on a couple of people, which looking back, was wrong on my part. I would apologize to them if I knew where they were today. Other than that there is really nothing more I can do. Whether they would forgive me would be up to them, and I would have to live with their decision. Whether they would or wouldn't I still have to forgive myself and move on. There are examples in the bible of terrible things leaders did to people, including murder, and they were able to forgive themselves and get on with their life. People everyday in the world wrong others and they have to forgive themselves. We are not required to try and carry on a friendship with those we have harmed in the past. Best let sleeping dogs lie, as the saying goes.

Looks like the only thing that seperates them from the rest of us is they stand very still for a long period of time.

There are so many intrepretions of the bible today, even though it states it is of no private intrepretation. If it were possible to let it intrepret itself, so everyone would know it was the correct one, why are there so many around? Just within Christianity there are thousands of "right dividings". How can this be possible? Expecting these thousands of Christian religions to agree is slim to nothing, and then throw in the Jewish religion, which ignores the New Testament.....well easier to part the Red Sea or move mountains.

Really???? Sounds extreme.

Watered Garden your son should not have had to endure what he did at the hands of TWI, and for them to tell you to get rid of him.....very ruthless. I count myself fortunate to have never encountered such people in my years. I think being in Montana, with not too many people, helped as there were not many Corps here. And once the Corps went full time and showed up in force, I got out. I does amaze me how people remain in TWI after being exposed to all the harm they inflicted on families and children. More amazing is how people remain in Roman Catholicism, who have harmed exponentially more families and children, but that is another thread sometime. Hope things are going well with you and your family, WG.

I am sorry to hear of the heavy handedness so many experienced at the hands of The Way Corp and others when it came to child rearing. Some of the children have posted here concerning their up bringing; something I would not wish on anyone. Thank you for sharing some of your experiences.

Very funny video. Some nasty language.

Thankfully my family did not run into this attitude in any of the twigs we were a part of. The rod of correction was never overly emphasized (I do believe in using it), but a tool to be used in rearing our children. No mothers or fathers we hell bent on beating their kids into submission, but rather understanding and loving. When the rod was used it was only a tap on the rear end, with no marks or bruising. My daughter was born and raised in in The Way until she was 16, and has fond memories of her time there, except for the Way Disciple's 6 months period. She does not feel she was beaten into submission and looks back on the adults as loving and kind. I can recall one boy who was diagnosed with Attention Deficient Disorder, and pains were taken by his parents and the twig to understand him, and to be accepting. He got into a lot of trouble at school but the result was never to beat him. He is now 22, and my daughter sees him from time to time, and says he is much more relaxed today. His parents did not give him any drugs as the doctors and school wanted, but spent much time understanding teaching him how to be more peaceful. Often times the only Way Corp around were leaders in another city. Regular 'wayfers' were coordinators in the cities, so we did not have the heavy hand of the Way Corp coming down on us day in and day out. I think non Corp parents were much more relaxed and not into the regimentation of Corp. When the Corp went full time and the coordinators had to be Corps I left and my wife and I split up. She and our daughter stayed in for a couple more years, but took off when all the crap about LCM started hitting the fan.

Carroll begins by going through her capture and what mistakes were made to allow it to happen in the first place. Her interperter was shot and killed during the kidnapping, and she was rushed to several houses in the first day, allowed to watch tv, and fed quite well. The overview of the entire 82 days was mind opening. Believing she would be killed, Carroll pleaded with her captures to use a gun to kill her and not a knife, as she would rather die from a bullet to the head than having her head cut off.

Carroll's account of her ordeal in Iraq begins airing to night by The Christian Science Monitor.

It does sound pretty conclusive he was doping. Here are his explanations for what might have gone wrong: Maybe-it-was-the-beer-and-Jack-Daniel's-the-night-before. Maybe-it-was-the-cortisone-shot-for-my-bad-hip. Maybe-it-was-my-thyroid-medication. Maybe-I-just-naturally-have-sky-high-levels-of-testosterone. Maybe somehow or some way I ingested something that caused the tests to be that way. They don't sound too convincing at this point.