Stayed Too Long

Some describe sin as missing the mark or coming up short. God certainly came up short when he created man in his image. If god is perfect, then his creation should also have been made perfect, right? But the answer is god is not perfect because he made all of his creations with sin capabilities. The angels he made sinned as evidenced by Lucifer and his band of devils rebelling and sinning. Man also rebelled against his creator, and only because the creator gave him this imperfect ability. I can only surmise that god is not perfect because of the imperfections he allowed in his creation. A better realization is there no god at all. Then thousands of religions don’t have to be made up by men, which all contradict each other, to explain how a loving god actually loves his sinful creation. Somehow Man “A” decides what he believes, but Man “B”, decides something different…and on and on. Thousands of different ways supposedly to get you to the same place. You can’t go North and expect to arrive at the same destination by traveling West. Which is correct? What is your reasoning for choosing the Islam religion over the Jewish religion? What makes Buddha so appealing over Jesus? I guess the best one can do is figure how they “feel in their heart” at the time. But what happens tomorrow when you “feel” different and chose a new path? Was the first belief a complete waste of time and cause you to loose rewards you can never recover? That sure doesn’t sound fair does it? Religion is so contrary to common sense. It just doesn’t make sense at all.

Every ROA I attended required a fee.

The Los Angeles Dodgers won the 2024 World Series by defeating the New York Yankees 4 games to 1. Congratulations!

That is true in the long term, but day to day, the survival of the fitest rules. Man slaughters beef to eat, man hunts trophy animals to hang their heads on a wall to boast about, the lion kills the antelope, the eagle snatches the fish, large trees rob small trees of sunlight, and the list goes on.

In all levels of life on the earth, dying is required for life to carry on. Plants require previous growth to die and decay for new life to begin and flourish. Survival of the fittest rules the animal kingdom. The bigger and stronger animals must kill the smaller and weaker animals to carry on their existence. Man is the greatest preditor of all, that kill not only to survive but for pleasure also. This instinct to kill has apparently been built into all life forms by God their Creator in order to carry on their species. This concept seems quite cruel that one life must be murdered in order for another to carry on. God has the ability to send manna from heaven, because he did so in order to feed his people in the desert, why not send manna all the time for all of creation to live? If man did not have this built in need to kill, would all the senseless murdering done in the world, not exist? Would wars be unheard of in life?

Great atticle defining a cult https://findingmyway12.substack.com/p/waityou-grew-up-in-a-cult

You didn’t have to extrapolate on it because no one furthered the conversation until i did.

A few posts up you said cman was babbing because of his posts. Apparently you decided this was irrelevant to the discussion.

Show me a topic where a Christian has declared they have no answer to what an atheist has said. They don’t.

What I see is someone who is spewing psycho babble that refuses to be pinned down as to what is the meaning of his statement. This is so typical of Christians who hate to be challenged for their beliefs. They just cannot accept the fact someone would disagree with their beliefs and just leave it at that. No..they keep ranting about stuff that is not at all relevant to the conversation.

Very interesting…..destroys the concept that a nation must believe in god for there to be peaceful coexistence in that country.

Your journey to realizing there is no god sounds similar to mine in that it took a longer period of time and did not happen over night. As a boy and man I was totally sold on the concept of worshipping a loving god in the RC religion, and it was a very high priority. I attended daily mass two times each day, served as an alter boy, sang in the church choir, and volunteered my time at church events. After becoming disillusioned with the RC’s I quit going to church, but always wanted to please god in my mind. Then a fellow sat down next to me while eating lunch and convinced me his group knew the word of god like no other. God has audibly spoken to its founder and assured him god would teach him the bible like it had not been known since the first century. I was sold and bought into the whole idea by taking all the classes offered, gave what little money I had on a regular basis, and went WOW for two years. Over the years, approximately 25, I did not see the signs, miracles, and wonders the group spoke of coming into fruition. I abundantly shared but my needs were not being met. But I dared not question any of this because others had and were severally chastised for doing so. I quit the Way and slowly figured out all religions are the same. They all chase some invisible being, but each has its own rules for pleasing their god. Which one is correct? Christian, Jew, Alluh, etc etc. Flip a coin I guess and come to the conclusion none have any truth. This realization there is no god did not happen over night, but after years of disappointment and disillusionment. Now I lead the best life I know and am not concerned about pleasing some imaginary god.

I now , and also at that time, live in Montana.. VPW and a group of TWI motocycle enthusists were part of a caravan riding to the Calgary Stampede in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. When the group rolled in, our twig was expected “to be blessed” by providing them with a evening meal. Our twig of 6 or 7 was expected to feed several dozen bikers. The caravan included VPW’s motor coach which he slept in, and also pulled a notorcycle trailer, so when he got tired of riding he could jump in the the coach to relax.

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