Mike

Did you read the list of Gospel verses where Jesus is teaching on believing that I posted earlier today? Jesus definitely, and more than once, said someone's believing was insufficient or wrong some way. I think there are 3 of them in the list, if not 4.

Right. I agree with you. That is what I posted. I was in error. I should NOT have been exhausted. Please re-read.

It's on SALE now, so buy while you can ! This offer will soon expire, so act now! */*/*/*/*/* Socrates, Please pardon me for repeating everything. That is for my benefit some, and for yours if your memory is 74 years old like mine, and also for the others passing by to be able to understand what we are talking about. But before that, I do now remember how, when I was a twig leader, I would answer a question like the one your TL had no answer for. I was lucky, in that I heard someone else answer that earlier much in my life. The key to making more money is to do jobs that no one else wants to do. I actually did that, going from high tech industry to window cleaning. I tripled my income within a month or two, after learning the ropes. Then I had much more time to research and witness. I could go on and on about how finding the hardest jobs is the key. That’s what doctors and lawyers do, except they put in the drudgery at school, preparing with boring memorization and long hours and stiff competition. What I do is clean fly$dang off of windows. */*/* Mike is in blue fonts. So_crates is in gold. So_crates posted: On 3/2/2023 at 10:59 AM, Mike said: What VPW taught us was that mental assent lacks action. When there is risk, and something to lose by acting, but the action is taken anyway, then that is an indicator that believing is happening. But don't forget, genuine believing with action, but lacking a written promise that is the object of the believing, is bogus and believing amiss. It's genuine believing-action, but it is aimed wrong. This part about linking believing with a promise of God often slips out of our speech, and later out of our awareness. It is equally critical that all operation of the power manifestations must be linked to a direct revelation. -/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/ Oh, really?! Just before I left the ministry in 1986, I was about to give ABS. At the time I was recently between job and I had given ABS faithfully for a year. I quickly calculated my finance and found I would come up short of food on Saturday (I believe it was Wednesday or Thursday). I remembered Saint Vic said when you ABS God protects your money and I was expecting a check Saturday from a temporary job I had done. So I wrote the check and placed it in the horn of plenty. Saturday rolled around and no check. Nothing to eat Sunday. Monday I went to the business and found out the sent the check to an address I lived at 10 years prior. (I later found out the new residents took the check and cashed it.) I had to argue with the business manager to even get half the money owed me. Now, you have believing and action and I had skin on the game, so what happened. (I have many more examples, as I'm sure other posters here do.) [][][][][][][][][][] Mike posted: On 3/2/2023 at 12:20 PM, So_crates said: … Another example. Same period of time. As you can see by my previous example, things weren't exactly champagne and caviar for me. So I went to the branch leader and asked him what I was doing wrong. "You need a job making $20 an hour," he told me. "Where do you find those?" I asked. "I'm going to send you to your twig leader for an answer." So I approached my twig leader. His answer:"I don't know." Nevermind if you obey the MOG God will bless you all the same. Again, believing+action=landing flat on my face. -/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/ YIKES! … I've been there and done that myself; sometimes spectacularly. When I was going out WoW in 1982 my car had an aluminum head that had cracked, but I got if fixed “semi-miraculously” and was off in running a cross country trip from San Diego to Ohio. LATE EDIT: I was joking about "semi-miraculous" But my new head cracked in the Colorado Rockies! I could tell, because I had to limp on a blown head for weeks prior to its fixing in San Diego, and I was now limping again. But I was answering a call from God! I had resisted acting on the WoW challenge for 11 years, but now finally I am giving God a year of my time and heart. I had put my business in the hands of 5 grads, with verbal promises they would give it all back to me on my return. No cracked aluminum head was not going to stop this Ambassador for Christ! No sirree! I started picturing in my mind the aluminum poles that hold up the huge Rock of Ages tents, and how strong that metallic bond was. I was a Physics major, and it was easy to imagine my cracked head “healing” up by God’s power. It would be so easy to work those atoms around, bring in a few needed neutrons or protons, or scoop up aluminum from the road dust…. I was into “the believing images of victory” that we all were galloping with in those days. As I limped up each hill I’d make these mental images stronger to defy the wobbles in the my car engine’s strength. As I coasted down the next hill I’d be thanking God for that head to he healed on climbing the next hill…. and the next… and the next… Arrrrggghhhh!! It was mentally exhausting. It was a miracle I made it to Ohio in time, though !!! LATE EDIT: I was joking about that miracle arrival. My diagnosis was right; cracked head. I had a sick feeling when I saw the aluminum poles and how strong they looked at the big tent. It took another 6 years before I could figure out what went wrong. Can you see it? [][][][][][][][][][] [][][][][][][][][][] Ok, that is the setup. What I will do now is repeat my story with a commentary on what went wrong. If I have time I can then tell the story of how I figured out my error 6 years later, in 1988. When I was going out WoW in 1982 my car had an aluminum head that had cracked, but I got if fixed “semi-miraculously” and was off in running a cross country trip from San Diego to Ohio. LATE EDIT: I was joking about "semi-miraculous" But my new head cracked in the Colorado Rockies! I could tell, because I had to limp on a blown head for weeks prior to its fixing in San Diego, and I was now limping again. Here I was distracted by the evidence from my 5 senses. It took my mind off the written Word and even the joy of fellowship with the Father. But I was answering a call from God! I had resisted acting on the WoW challenge for 11 years, but now finally I am giving God a year of my time and heart. I had put my business in the hands of 5 grads, with verbal promises they would give it all back to me on my return. Here I was leaning on my feeling self-sufficient. I felt very much in control when I took off in my car, and then I hit the Rocky Mountains. No cracked aluminum head was not going to stop this Ambassador for Christ! No sirree! I started picturing in my mind the aluminum poles that hold up the huge Rock of Ages tents, and how strong that metallic bond was. I was a Physics major, and it was easy to imagine my cracked head “healing” up by God’s power. It would be so easy to work those atoms around, bring in a few needed neutrons or protons, or scoop up aluminum from the road dust…. I was into “the believing images of victory” that we all were galloping with in those days. This was my BIG error; the preceding ones were minor sloppiness, spiritually, while being pretty sharp in the 5-senses. Here I was doing what that book, the “Seduction of Christianity” talks about and is akin to witchcraft. I did not have a written promise from the Bible being burned into brain’s believing. I didn’t have a direct revelation from the Father, nor the manifestation of believing in operation. What I had going was what LOTS of grads were doing, and that the TVTs were promoting. (by the way, some of the TVTs could come from Way Magazine articles and from SNT tapes) Many people in the ministry were cutting out pictures of red sports cars and making refrigerator magnets out of them to bolster their “Believing Images of Victory.” I know I did things like that. I saw many others do it too. I was doing it as my car was wobbling up each hill. And then I’d give God the credit on the way down each hill, but it was too late. God had nothing to do with my believing here. I had good believing going, not mental assent, but it was WHAT was being believed, precisely, that was amiss. It was like the Book of James says about asking amiss and not receiving. I manufactured a revelation from God to do a miracle on my car engine, and it BACKFIRED ! Please pardon the intended pun; I couldn’t resist. As I limped up each hill I’d make these mental images stronger to defy the wobbles in the my car engine’s strength. As I coasted down the next hill I’d be thanking God for that head to he healed on climbing the next hill…. and the next… and the next… Arrrrggghhhh!! It was mentally exhausting. Yup! There is peace when we operate the manifestations like Jesus did. This was not peaceful. It was a miracle I made it to Ohio in time, though !!! LATE EDIT: I was joking about that miracle arrival. God did meet my need! …on 3 cylinders. I went out WoW without the car. I had to face a bigger challenge than I had calculated, and from that I grew. It was an adventure, that is for sure! My diagnosis was right; cracked head. I had a sick feeling when I saw the aluminum poles and how strong they looked at the big tent. It took another 6 years before I could figure out what went wrong. Can you see it? */*/*/*/*/*/*/*/* Now, So_crates, I’m not saying your situation was as extreme an error as mine, but I think it was very similar in quality of error, if not quantity of error. You did not have a written promise from the Bible that you were believing for the Saturday arrival of the check. You did not have a direct revelation from God either. And your need still got met; you survived to tell us about it. On those points our stories are similar. It doesn’t say WHEN God is going to bless us for all the money AND SERVICE that we gave, and that now looks like a waste. God remembers all that we did with the right heart. It was NOT a waste! And there is no guarantee we will understand everything, just when we want it. It took me 6 years to see my mistakes there. Here is how it happened: */*/*/*/* In Sept 1988 John Lynn came to San Diego to continue what Ralph D had started the year before, which was a live, face-to-face, Road Show version of the Grease Spot Café. I had been shocked silly the year before by Ralph for lots of reasons, but most prominent was I first saw the John Schoenheit Paper there, and got a copy for myself. I was shocked that it was not about the Trinity, as I had been told. I was double shocked that the ministry had banned it! I was triple shocked because I had come up with almost identical findings to Schoenheit’s with my twig in 1980, which was 6 years before Schoenheit. This was 1987, a whole decade before I took my special stance with regards to the collaterals. I was up and down and both sides ways in those days. But the Schoenheit Paper gave me nausea for two days afterwards. Literally. I was in very silent solo grieving. The next year, when John Lynn did the same Road Show, I was braced for more shocks, but not enough. John brought with him and promoted, even sold a bunch of, “The Seduction of Christianity” that I mentioned earlier. I had never heard of it. John had a hot teaching on how VPW misled us with the law of believing and how it was witchcraft. He used all kinds of examples of how PFAL had ruined us to this counterfeit way of doing what Jesus was talking about in the Gospels about believing. (hope you liked my list posted earlier today) He reminded us of all the refrigerator magnets for believing we had made, and things like that. I went home from that teaching, and was wise to abstain from food, that time. But another thing happened that same month. I had received my first bootleg copy of the class. As I pondered deeply all that Ralph and John had showed me, it was evident that we were not told everything and that the ministry meltdown two years prior to this was inevitable, instead of ironic and mysterious. But something was nagging at the back of my mind from running all those PFAL classes, where I was the AV guy and could not leave my seat for a second, unlike the class instructor, who often went out for a smoke or phone calls. I decided to “take the class” again by listening on a Walkman cassette player while I cleaned windows. As I did that I had pen and paper on me to jot down quick notes. What I discovered was about 19 places in the class where VPW very plainly taught us how crucial the link was between us doing the believing and having a SPECIFIC promise to focus that believing on. In other words, nineteen times in the class he told us to remember to do it right. This directly contradicted what John Lynn had reported. But HOW did I believe John so hook-line-and-sinker, when he explained the book he was selling and our matching TWI activities. I believed his report because it was TRUE! …true as long as John’s words applied to the TVTs and the refrigerator magnets that had been raging by 1988. But when John said we were taught that way in the class he was dead wrong. This was how I learned about the TVTs, and how contrary to PFAL they often were by 1988. This was how I learned that we grads had slowly forgotten a lot of what we were taught in the class in just a few years. It was an eye opener to me. I was ashamed I did not accurately remember the class when John was telling us how it ruined us and seduced us into witchcraft. I had forgotten those 19 times we were told to link our believing to a promise in God’s Word. This should have been a bigger wake-up call for me. Listening to the whole class definitely helped, but I would need another huge wake-up call several years later to see ANOTHER area of my life where I had forgotten and drifted from what I was taught, unknowingly. I have reported on this in the “Determinism versus Free Will” thread. I had drifted “soul” from the natural category over to the spiritual category, and it was the brain scientists at UCSD that alerted me to this. */*/*/* Sometimes we weren’t believing. Jesus would tell people when this was where they were blowing it. It’s natural, and nothing surprising that we would mental assent sometimes, and it would feel like believing, and then we get tricked. Sometimes we WERE believing, but believing not quite on the right things, or maybe even the wrong things. Yes, TWI was rotten about condemning people all the time about them failing in their believing. But Jesus wasn’t rotten when he did it. He was right on. We all need tuning-up in believing and in believing for the best things.

I vaguely remember it being Moses' rod turned to a snake, and then the Pharaoh's magicians did the same, that got me going on this hunch. Then seeing Paul getting blinded at the same time he talks to Jesus was another. Similarly with John the Baptist's father.

I would not post it here if that was what I wanted. It was the opposition to the hunch (not opposition to me personally) that I was seeking here. My mind is not made up enough to teach this. I didn't even want to put in the About the Way forum for that reason. So I came here to the Doctrinal Dungeon to bat it about a bit in near privacy.

Oops! I think I misread this to say you "never had that conversation" in my response to you above. So soggy.

This is what I was referring to. You didn't say much in our "conversation" but this one thing about SIT. I responded a couple of times, I think.

Oops. Mistaken identity? I'll check.

They MAY be related. Lots of godly ideas in the Bible appear elsewhere, but usually in distorted forms. The similarity of this double doors hunch to yin/yang does not cast aspersions on it. In fact, it can be seen as a weak confirmation, when other parameters are right. Likewise, for VPW to label the topic of believing in the Bible with the name "The Law of Believing." The fact that lots of hookie pookers use the same title, "The Law of Believing," to describe something similar does not cast aspersions on PFAL.

Again, I sympathize for the bone head responses you got from so many leaders. I will try to do better than them for your mis-addressed check. As to your twig and branch leaders, it looked to me that both were covering their but by not answering you. But at least the twig leader admitted he did not know. */*/* I too have to admit I don't know the answers to your questions following this post of yours. Not every scripture has clues to double doors or budgets, so I am not going to invent any. But some scriptures do, albeit subtle. If this hunch of mine seems to pan out, then lots of time can be invested in answering your questions. Right now I am just trying to find some verification to the base idea.

FINALLY ! This section is about the “Double Doors” where the adversary has to wait for the doors to open before he can “fiddle” with things in the natural realm. The Garden of Eden, in my weak estimate, was a portion of Earth that Adam and Eve lived in. Outside the Garden the adversary was cast. Yet, we see him in the Garden with Eve due to this “equal access” That the serpent was in the Garden is a very odd thing, seeing that the Garden was “very good.” I see the serpent’s presence as explained if you buy the idea that God’s own constructed framework must allow the devil equal access to God’s people. We see that the serpent has access in Genesis. Why? How? My hunch is the double doors idea. So, the doors were wide open in the early portion of Genesis in the Garden for both God and the serpent to operate. Then, at the end of Eden, the doors are shut and guarded by cherubim, compared to before. So that is roughly TWO scriptures that support this idea. They do NOT prove it, but they fit with it. */*/* In Exodus We see Moses’ rod turns into a snake and the court magicians rods do the same. Both God and the devil at work simultaneously, as both doors opened. In the OT Naaman was healed of leprosy, and Gehazi catches leprosy. (both doors opened) Matt John Baptist’s father has a wonderful angel visit announcing that his wife would conceive, then he his hit with dumbness. (both doors opened) Matt 4 Holy Spirit on Jesus in water Devil on Jesus in desert (both doors opened) Matt 4 Devil tempts Jesus to feed himself Angels bring food for Jesus (both doors opened) Acts Stephen’s vision and Stephen’s stoning. (both doors opened) Acts Paul, on the road to Damascus, sees and talks to Jesus Simultaneously, Paul is blinded by the adversary. (both doors opened) Romans 5:20 The law was brought in so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more, 21 so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (death reigns, then life reigns) 1 Corinthians 16 5 ¶Now I will come unto you, when I shall pass through Macedonia: for I do pass through Macedonia. 6 And it may be that I will abide, yea, and winter with you, that ye may bring me on my journey whithersoever I go. 7 For I will not see you now by the way; but I trust to tarry a while with you, if the Lord permit. 8 But I will tarry at Ephesus until Pentecost. 9 For a great door and effectual is opened unto me, and there are many adversaries. (two doors simultaneously) 2 Corinthians Paul’s abundance of revelations Paul’s thorn in the flesh (both doors opened) TNDC p167 Somewhere in our thinking, many of us have erroneously embraced the idea that when God moves, peace and tranquility prevail. This concept was succinctly stated in a radio broadcast when the minister explained it thusly: Frequently we are mixed up when it comes to defining a movement of God. We think that confusion of any sort indicates that the whole thing is of Satan. Nothing could be further from the truth. A move of God always upsets the equilibrium of established order. For a time it seems to bring chaos into orderly lives and churches. The smug, complacent, and self satisfied are tremendously disturbed. It is quoted that ‘God is not a God of confusion but of peace.’ This is true, but only in the Church will this peace be found. In the world, as well as in the ‘merely professing’ church, there is to be... (God moves, the adversary moves) */*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/* There are a few more of these in my folder, but they need work, or are too subtle to use here. I also believe this pattern of double doors can be seen elsewhere in scripture, but have not had time to systematically search yet. Plus I am hoping that some here may be aware of other scriptures that illustrate this fierce competition between God and the adversary. */*/*/* Next, I will be processing the verses I have collected on the “budget analogy” where God limits the amount of interactions allowed when the double doors are opened.

I'm just trying to get you prepared for my response.

I am prepared. I am just not moving as fast as you want me to. Please be patient.

If this hunch can withstand scrutiny, by people here and by me, then I agree that better nomenclature should be sought. In re-writing this I'd only use the word "budget" in a side explanation, and caution that it is only a light analogy.

That is coming, and soon. I already leaked a few of them out.

Let's get real. Had I written it all up first, then posted it all, then someone would complain that I am trying to take over GSC, or break the bandwidth. And how much respect do you have for me? Why are you not paying attention to the ideas I am posting? Have you seen what I did wrong yet, in my car trip to Ohio to go out Wow?

Have you read the opening posts for this thread? There I explain what I mean by budget. It is all at aimed at limiting the adversary's power to certain "amounts" and to certain times.

Well, this DoubleDoors/Budget is not yet a half baked theory. I am trying it on for size right now. And PLEASE, forgive me for not yet posting the scriptures I promised. I got to get that done today, hopefully.

I am working on that. Actually, only one of them: the mis-addressed check story. Meanwhile, have you had a chance to see what went wrong in MY story, the one where I was "on a mission from God" to go out WoW and my car started dying? Here it is again, to eliminate searching: I feel for you, because I've been there and done that myself; sometimes spectacularly. When I was going out WoW in 1982 my car had an aluminum head that had cracked, but I got if fixed “semi-miraculously” and was off in running a cross country trip from San Diego to Ohio. But my new head cracked in the Colorado Rockies! I could tell, because I had to limp on a blown head for weeks prior to its fixing in San Diego, and I was now limping again. But I was answering a call from God! I had resisted acting on the WoW challenge for 11 years, but now finally I am giving God a year of my time and heart. I had put my business in the hands of 5 grads, with verbal promises they would give it all back to me on my return. No cracked aluminum head was not going to stop this Ambassador for Christ! No sirree! I started picturing in my mind the aluminum poles that hold up the huge Rock of Ages tents, and how strong that metallic bond was. I was a Physics major, and it was easy to imagine my cracked head “healing” up by God’s power. It would be so easy to work those atoms around, bring in a few needed neutrons or protons, or scoop up aluminum from the road dust…. I was into “the believing images of victory” that we all were galloping with in those days. As I limped up each hill I’d make these mental images stronger to defy the wobbles in the my car engine’s strength. As I coasted down the next hill I’d be thanking God for that head to he healed on climbing the next hill…. and the next… and the next… Arrrrggghhhh!! It was mentally exhausting. It was a miracle I made it to Ohio in time, though !!! My diagnosis was right; cracked head. I had a sick feeling when I saw the aluminum poles and how strong they looked at the big tent. It took another 6 years before I could figure out what went wrong. Can you see it?

You are taking MY WORD "budget" way to seriously. Look at the idea, please. This is not EXACTLY like human budgeting, as you assume. It is only a little bit like it. You are stretching the analogy, while clearly not understanding it.

I knew when I was re-formatting it that someone would have that concern, so I doubled down to not misrepresent anything. Plus I supplied the link, the name of the thread, and the page number so the excerpts can be checked for accuracy.

Right. I said that I am working on that response. Sorry for the delays. It has been a busy few days for me.

I fixed the link. Sorry about that. I did think people would want to see the original, and that is why I posted the link. I re-formatted it to make it easier to read.

I struggled to get that link to work. Try pasting it in your browser. I will try to get it to work. Meanwhile try this: https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/17393-how-did-the-ordination-of-clergy-thing-work-in-twi/page/4/#comment-415724

Hi So_crates, You and I were discussing this and I gave you a story of mine with similar issues where it seemed like the law of believing was not working for us. I am still working on my response to all that. Have you thought any on my question to you? I asked what was it that I did wrong as I drove my limping car to go out WoW. But, I got a little distracted by T-Bone's SIT thread, and then with life's business. But I will be back to that discussion soon. Meanwhile, I wanted to take another tangent into the Gospels. You brought up a point in another thread and I answered it this way: Most people here are offended by VPW's teaching on the law of believing, and I often get the impression that few here ever checked out the 4 Gospels to see what Jesus taught on the law of believing. When I first got into the Word, I tried my best to check EVERYTHING out that was in PFAL, including the law of believing. I had two big reasons, in the 1970s, to read all of the Gospels for (1) anything Jesus said about HIMSELF that could settle the Trinity and “Jesus is God” issues that were raging in my mind, and (2) to see what Jesus taught on the law of believing. Well, I went back and did it again a few days ago. I didn't read all the Gospels this time, but I used technology to find all occurrences of "faith" and "believing" and "believe" in the KJV. I did this fast, so I can't guarantee I got every last one. I get the strong impression that few here ever systematically studied what Jesus said about the law of believing. This may help some. The words faith and believing and believe are all tied into the one Greek word pistis. Some are verb form, some noun form. */*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/* MATTHEW CHAPTER 8 9 For I am a man under authority, having soldiers under me: and I say to this [man], Go, and he goeth; and to another, Come, and he cometh; and to my servant, Do this, and he doeth [it]. 10 When Jesus heard [it], he marvelled, and said to them that followed, Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel. 11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven. 12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 13 And Jesus said unto the centurion, Go thy way; and as thou hast believed, [so] be it done unto thee. And his servant was healed in the selfsame hour. MATTHEW CHAPTER 8 25 And his disciples came to [him], and awoke him, saying, Lord, save us: we perish. 26 And he saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith? Then he arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm. MATTHEW CHAPTER 9 27 And when Jesus departed thence, two blind men followed him, crying, and saying, [Thou] Son of David, have mercy on us. 28 And when he was come into the house, the blind men came to him: and Jesus saith unto them, Believe ye that I am able to do this? They said unto him, Yea, Lord. 29 Then touched he their eyes, saying, According to your faith be it unto you. 30 And their eyes were opened… MATTHEW CHAPTER 17 16 And I brought him to thy disciples, and they could not cure him. 17 Then Jesus answered and said, O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him hither to me. 18 And Jesus rebuked the devil; and he departed out of him: and the child was cured from that very hour. 19 Then came the disciples to Jesus apart, and said, Why could not we cast him out? 20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you. 21 Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting. MATTHEW CHAPTER 21 20 And when the disciples saw [it], they marvelled, saying, How soon is the fig tree withered away! 21 Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this [which is done] to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done. 22 And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive. THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO SAINT MARK MARK CHAPTER 2 4 And when they could not come nigh unto him for the press, they uncovered the roof where he was: and when they had broken [it] up, they let down the bed wherein the sick of the palsy lay. 5 When Jesus saw their faith, he said unto the sick of the palsy, Son, thy sins be forgiven thee. MARK CHAPTER 4 39 And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm. 40 And he said unto them, Why are ye so fearful? how is it that ye have no faith? MARK CHAPTER 5 30 And Jesus, immediately knowing in himself that virtue had gone out of him, turned him about in the press, and said, Who touched my clothes? 31 And his disciples said unto him, Thou seest the multitude thronging thee, and sayest thou, Who touched me? 32 And he looked round about to see her that had done this thing. 33 But the woman fearing and trembling, knowing what was done in her, came and fell down before him, and told him all the truth. 34 And he said unto her, Daughter, thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace, and be whole of thy plague. 35 While he yet spake, there came from the ruler of the synagogue's [house certain] which said, Thy daughter is dead: why troublest thou the Master any further? 36 As soon as Jesus heard the word that was spoken, he saith unto the ruler of the synagogue, Be not afraid, only believe. MARK CHAPTER 9 21 And he asked his father, How long is it ago since this came unto him? And he said, Of a child. 22 And ofttimes it hath cast him into the fire, and into the waters, to destroy him: but if thou canst do any thing, have compassion on us, and help us. 23 Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things [are] possible to him that believeth. 24 And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief. MARK CHAPTER 11 21 And Peter calling to remembrance saith unto him, Master, behold, the fig tree which thou cursedst is withered away. 22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God. 23 For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith. 24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive [them], and ye shall have [them]. MARK CHAPTER 16 9 Now when [Jesus] was risen early the first [day] of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils. 10 [And] she went and told them that had been with him, as they mourned and wept. 11 And they, when they had heard that he was alive, and had been seen of her, believed not. 12 After that he appeared in another form unto two of them, as they walked, and went into the country. 13 And they went and told [it] unto the residue: neither believed they them. 14 Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen. 15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. 17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. 19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO SAINT LUKE LUKE CHAPTER 1 18 And Zacharias said unto the angel, Whereby shall I know this? for I am an old man, and my wife well stricken in years. 19 And the angel answering said unto him, I am Gabriel, that stand in the presence of God; and am sent to speak unto thee, and to shew thee these glad tidings. 20 And, behold, thou shalt be dumb, and not able to speak, until the day that these things shall be performed, because thou believest not my words, which shall be fulfilled in their season. 21 And the people waited for Zacharias, and marvelled that he tarried so long in the temple. 22 And when he came out, he could not speak unto them: and they perceived that he had seen a vision in the temple: for he beckoned unto them, and remained speechless. LUKE CHAPTER 1 41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost: 42 And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed [art] thou among women, and blessed [is] the fruit of thy womb. 43 And whence [is] this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? 44 For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy. 45 And blessed [is] she that believed: for there shall be a performance of those things which were told her from the Lord. 46 And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord, LUKE CHAPTER 7 48 And he said unto her, Thy sins are forgiven. 49 And they that sat at meat with him began to say within themselves, Who is this that forgiveth sins also? 50 And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace. LUKE CHAPTER 8 11 Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God. 12 Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved. 13 They on the rock [are they], which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away. 14 And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth, and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of [this] life, and bring no fruit to perfection. 15 But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep [it], and bring forth fruit with patience. LUKE CHAPTER 8 24 And they came to him, and awoke him, saying, Master, master, we perish. Then he arose, and rebuked the wind and the raging of the water: and they ceased, and there was a calm. 25 And he said unto them, Where is your faith? And they being afraid wondered, saying one to another, What manner of man is this! for he commandeth even the winds and water, and they obey him. LUKE CHAPTER 17 5 And the apostles said unto the Lord, Increase our faith. 6 And the Lord said, If ye had faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye might say unto this sycamine tree, Be thou plucked up by the root, and be thou planted in the sea; and it should obey you. LUKE CHAPTER 17 17 And Jesus answering said, Were there not ten cleansed? but where [are] the nine? 18 There are not found that returned to give glory to God, save this stranger. 19 And he said unto him, Arise, go thy way: thy faith hath made thee whole. THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO SAINT JOHN JOHN CHAPTER 14 10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. 11 Believe me that I [am] in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake. 12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater [works] than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. 13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do [it]. 15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. JOHN CHAPTER 20 29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed [are] they that have not seen, and [yet] have believed. 30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: 31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.