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We never met: I just like to pour coffee for the new folks who show up at the cafe. How do you take your coffee?

I just don't see how one Person in the Godhead can keep a secret from another Person in the Godhead.

I don't understand the question. You sure it was intended for me?

Some more for the yuck list: Weeeeeee've got the power... to take the Word over the wooooooorld In fact, with all due respect to the heart of the guy who put that tape together, I thought it was the worst collection of sings I'd ever heard. The Trinity is idolatry, who's kidding who? I am a leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaf, I am a leeeeee-eeee-eeeeaf... (I know, I listed that one already. But it deserves to be listed twice).

Insurgent: It's okay to quote something. That's not plagiarism. And it's not copyright infringement either.

That would be the satire speech on the beginning of the Tom Burke tape. What a waste of tape.

I'm not talking about Songbook songs. I'm talking about those songs by Acts 29, Brian Bliss, PDSTRO, Sam Pruyn, Breakthrough, Billy Falcon, Singing Ladies... you know, songs that they produced and sold. If we were to include hymns, I would have to argue for the PFAL song. "I Saw The Light" was independent of TWI. I was thinking of "Plurality Giving" by Acts 29: It goes beyond abundant sharing It's giving your plurality If you really want to move the Word it's time to raise your vision. It goes beyond abundant sharing It's giving your plurality You've got the choice; it's in the Word, what's your decision? How many of the people singing that song were PG'ing? Gimme a friggin break. Oh, and I'd be pushing up DAISIES before anyone ever caught me singing I am a leaf, I am a leeeeeeeee-eee-eeeeaf...

Hey Bramble, Let's pretend, for argument's sake, just pretend, that I never heard the song and I don't have the slightest idea what the lyrics are or why you hate it. Just pretend, mind you. Could you tell me? :)-->

Def, there is a different kind of "dispensationalism" being discussed on this thread. Not the same as what we've all discussed before. This is more about a peculiarity of Jehovah's Witnesses.

What was the worst song produced and sold by TWI's various groups? I remember continuously hearing "There Ain't Nothin' Wrong With Hank Williams Jr." (I don't know the exact name of the song). And every time I heard that song I would think... I didn't ask you. It's like, the song extolls the virtues of Country music, which is fine, but has got a big fat zero to do with the Bible. Anyway, that's not the worst song in my opinion. But I am thinking of one in particular that drove me bats. But I'll save it until I hear a few more. Now, you can't just name the song: give a lyric or two and 'splain why you hated it.

DMiller, Even if one were to reject dispensationalism, an argument can still be made that the tithe is not applicable today (as a requirement). We know, for example, that circumcision is not a requirement. Most of us realize that dietary laws are not a requirement. One must ask IF the tithe falls into the same category of laws that are no longer required. Gentile believers with no background in Judaism are never told to tithe. James, after the Jerusalem council, never instructs Gentiles to tithe. JAMES! I thought he was the big legalist! Yet no instruction to tithe. Paul spends several chapters in Corinthians talking about the heart behind giving. The tithe is conspicuously absent. You'll never catch me saying there's something wrong with tithing. But there is something wrong with requiring others to do so. The NT doesn't.

After you see the third movie, let me know.

I usually try to serve coffee to the new folks, but in this case... For JT:

This is a great one from Goey in the Doctrinal Forum:

Ohhhhh k. That answers my question. :)-->

I know I wasn't in for a very long time, but I did listen to a whole bunch of tapes and I don't recall Wierwille making such a big deal of his heritage. Mention it, yes, but I don't remember him making a big deal of it, like it made him more spiritual or anything. Maybe I'm just not seeing it.

My WORD we're getting tons and tons of new folks lately. What gives? In the meantime, would you like some coffee gammacoffey? Or is that redundant?

I feel for you, Pat. That's why I asked if there was objective proof, in writing. The letter sent to Janet would qualify. I hope others kept it. Goey, you wrote: True, but where did they "announce" this? On tape? In writing? We agree, the word got out: but that wasn't my question. My question is, can it be objectively proven (in writing or on tape) that the bookstore was ever closed to the public?

Some really good moments, and Puss 'n Boots totally steals the show... But there's not a lot of show to steal, IMHO.

I say Ex-TWI and Mrs. Ex-TWI. We could get Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston to play them.

Can anyone objectively prove that the bookstore was ever closed to the public? Was this ever in writing anywhere? I'm just thinking that if they ARE doing this for legal reasons, Pat and TWIM need to establish that the bookstore was indeed closed to the public in order to score that point. Otherwise they can say it was always open to the public, but Greasespotters were just engaging in spreading more lies about TWI and never bothered to check.

If that's truly your decision, then fine. But def, if you're happy giving at the level you're giving at now, that's fine too. Your giving should be a reflection of the life you live for God, and that's for you to determine, not for others to judge. Do you consider yourself a strong believer? Does your giving reflect this? Do you consider yourself someone who speaks and preaches the gospel? Does your giving reflect this? Do you consider yourself knowledgeable in the Scriptures? Does your giving reflect this? Do you consider yourself diligent when it comes to the things of God? Does your giving reflect this? Do you love God and love your neighbor as yourself? Does your giving reflect this? These are among the standards which motivate us toward generosity in our giving. Hey def! We agree on something! :)-->

ANN B. DAVIS!!! HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!

There was a thread on this not that long ago. I kept saying Terry Bradshaw should play LCM. And someone else suggested Anthony Hopkins as VPW.

Look at it this way: Trinitarians are afforded the privilege of referring to their belief as "Orthodox," which means "true doctrine." Biblical Unitarians don't enjoy the same privilege. Trinitarians are also fond of saying that "Biblical Unitarianism" is an oxymoron. Anyway, like I said, I see your point.