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Mark, The discrepancy in the four crucified is, if I'm not mistaken, that in two gospels, two people are crucified at the same time as Jesus, while in another gospel, two are crucified well after Jesus is crucified (I could have this backward, but the point is that the discrepancy is in the timing). If that chronology is correct, then there must be a total of five people crucified (three at first, then two joined them). John says "two others with him on this side and on that side." Without a comma, it's pretty clear that four are crucified with him. WITH a comma ("two others with him, on this side and on that side"), it's pretty clear that there's only two. Acceptance of four crucified with Jesus entails acceptance that the chronology of the others crucified as presented in PFAL (and How to Enjoy the Bible) is significant, and that no comma belongs in the verse in the gospel of John. Whether a comma belongs there or not is unprovable, according to PFAL, because the oldest existing texts contained no punctuation (has anyone verified this?). So it comes down to chronology.

Can someone else jump in?

Who said this? When did anyone say this? For the record, when confronted on this very point, here's what I said:

I've answered your question many times before, and as I said, I refuse to entertain your play at ignorance. You've asked this before, I've answered it before, and you keep asking as though it's never been answered. Enough. I only brought this up to show that your definition of "idolatry" conveniently changes when it suits your purposes. WTH: Interesting post. I would go a step further and say heteros has nothing to do with whether two are involved or more than two are involved. That's the error there. Nonetheless, whether or not it's footnoted and whether or not it's accurate are two separate issues. Why would anyone complain about the footnotes that ARE present in the PFAL series (incidentally, you flat out lie when you say there's no concern there: I've applauded those footnotes, as have others). Complaining about footnotes that are present is like getting a traffic ticket for stopping at a stop sign. Your point is flawed, your example is flawed, and your example is a non-sequitir when it comes to your point.

Dear ____, I am so glad that you remember the things I taught you, and that they helped you in your search for the things of God. Allow me to share one more thing with you. "God's ministry" is not The Way International. It is the ministry of reconciliation (II Corinthians 5: 18), and it is something I am still actively engaged in. I love helping people reconcile to God through Christ, and will continue to do so for as long as I have breath. The things that God commands me to do through Jesus Christ, I do. They do not include participation in any particular earthly organization. The Body of Christ does not respect such affiliations, so I see no reason why my decision to avoid a particular organization should translate into an inability to see you. I was sorry to hear of Mrs. Wierwille's death. I will be sure to send my condolences to her family. You might want to reach out to them as well. I hear many of them can be reached in care of Christian Family Fellowship. You can look them up on the Internet. You can look up lots of things on the Internet. Feel free to call me or come over any time. Sincerely, .... I double dog dare you. :)

So Catholics don't practice idolatry, in your view?

Oldies, If you don't see it now, you're not going to see it, and I'm not going to entertain your request for me to prove that the sky is blue.

Ladder 49

Oldies, Mike's idolatry extends beyond considering PFAL God-breathed.

Just because you have eagerly embraced idolatry and refuse to see your way out of it doesn't mean the rest of us should.

You're welcome. I mean... Thank You Led Zeppelin And now... These empty arms are getting stronger every day.

Steven Segal/Shirley Jones 5

Vivien Leigh was in Ship of Fools with Lee Marvin Marvin was in Delta Force with George Kennedy Kennedy was in Cool Hand Luke, in which Harry Dean Stanton had a bit part.

Umm, Grave Croissants is not the answer. Most people here have seen this movie. Hint: French for Bread is...

I don't even want to think about it.

That looks just like a South Florida jack!

Not only is it possible, it's been done, repeatedly. There's no betting involved here. Betting whether PFAL is God-breathed is like betting, today, whether the Yankees will win the 2005 World Series. If you want to stake your life on that, that's your privilege. Stupid, but your privilege. PFAL is not God-breathed, according to PFAL, your silly contrivances notwithstanding.

No, Mike. That is not what I said. Stop misrepresenting me. And while you're at it, stop misrepresenting God, stop misrepresenting Christ, and EVEN stop misrepresenting VPW! I said God will not do what He said He will not do, and your conscience is so seared you refuse to see it. Go back to the shadow.

That's a fairly safe bet, considering the evidence is right there for anyone whose conscience is not seared with a hot idol. Mike, I do not tell God what he can and can't do. I listen to him say what He will and won't do. When he said Thou Shalt Not Steal, I took Him at His Word. You didn't, and that's okay, because your faith is not in God, it's in a flawed man. Anyway, back to topic...

That's terrific.

It was a grand ceremony. There was a picture of VPW and the original BOD over the stage. LCM stood center stage in his robes. RFR knelt before him. LCM put his hands on the back of her head. RFR put her fist straight out. And LCM let out a soprano prophecy that was not to be believed.

Well, gee, yeah, after that second quote.

And if I get to "heaven" and "God" asks me one question about VPW, I will be sure I'm in the wrong place.

Anyone know or remember how to create a pdf file? I remember there was some free web site or program for it, but have no idea where to find it.

What you stated was not true. The plagiarism charges are valid.