Raf

Now THAT's an ebay item. Bravo. I hope it sells.

Uh, yeah, Rent was the answer.

Silence of the Lambs and Forrest Gump bucked that trend. But yes, early releases usually don't get Best Pitcure Oscars.

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"No, I'm through with everything here. I want peace. I want to see if somewhere there isn't something left in life of charm and grace. Do you know what I'm talking about?" "No! I only know that I love you." "That's your misfortune." === "I've always thought a good lashing with a buggy whip would benefit you immensely." This should be ridiculously easy, but if there's any trouble with it (I'll die of shock) and then post the easiest clue of all.

I don't see any sweeping going on, and I'm hoping Crash upsets Brokeback Mountain for Best Picture.

Okay, not only did it get a Best Picture nomination (hooray!) but it's got a good shot at dislodging Brokeback Mountain for the prize. I hope so. It's a much better movie.

Pacifists aren't regular customers... not if you're selling arms. Which would make this Lord of War.

millieandleroy I almost forgot... Welcome to the Cafe! Nicholson in As Good As It Gets "You make me want to be a better man."

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I'm a fun guy I'm a fungi Get it?

There's a shock.

You mean like taking the "thus saith the lord" comments out of the context of where they appear might alter the true meaning? Is that what you mean?

I was taught error by Victor Paul Wierwille, too. So what does that make me? Nothing! I do not define myself in terms of my thoughts, feelings or beliefs concerning Victor Paul Wierwille.

No, Mike. I assume that if element 3 is not stated, it's implied. I don't force element 3 in there when it's not there, and in many cases explained and explored by Wierwille, element 3 is not there, stated or unstated. Does it hurt to contort yourself into such self-delusion, Mike?

Oh, I agree with all that wholeheartedly. When did God promise red drapes? When did God promise that Job's children would be eradicated? When did God promise Tilly a canning factory? (Anyone ever verify that story)? Point is, yes, Wierwille often spoke about believing God. But he often spoke about believing with the same effectiveness apart from God. God was just gravy in the law of believing, not a requirement. Element 3 falls!

One last note: White Dove, it's not that I didn't agree with that part of his conclusions. It's that I didn't comment about it one way or another. Carry on.

Nope and nope. The first guess was the closest.

Except that wasn't the Devil's Advocate. It was The Usual Suspects.

White Dove, I'm afraid you've quoted me out of context. When I told Groucho he may have touched on something, I was referring to VPW as "our father in the word." I was not discussing plagiarism at all, in the slightest, and connecting those two statements was an error on your part. Understandable error, not malicious in any way, but an error nonetheless. Raf

TheEvan strikes:

If you won't set foot in a church that has a doctrine different from yours, but you view looking critically at the work of VPW as "tearing down" and "nitpicking," you might be a Wierwillite.

If the thought of VPW ripping the Catholic Church to shreds by selling books about vicious and scandalous reports of the deeds of popes past (who can't defend themselves) doesn't bother you, but reciting the horrors committed by VPW does bother you, you might be a Wierwillite.

Number 3 is not an element in Wierwille's law of believing. It's an element in the expanded and revised law of believing because too many people recognized the law of believing was an emperor with no clothes.

Groucho, I think you've touched on something significant there. If you consider Wierwille your father in the Word... If you give an argument the benefit of the doubt because it was taught by Wierwille... If the thought of Wierwille being wrong about something worries you... you might be a Wierwillite.