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A nine-year-old orphaned by the attack on the World Trade Center searches for the lock that matches a mysterious key left behind by his father. His search leads him to answers to much larger questions at Devil's Tower in Wyoming.

Sorry for the delay. Here we go: a VERY well known movie, but not a lot of iconic lines. "AirEast 31, do you wish to file a report of any kind to us?" "I wouldn't know what kind of report to file, Center." ... "Einstein WAS right." "Einstein was probably one of them."

Curious to know where you draw the line, John. Left on its own, the Bible does give the impression that "night" and "day" preceded the origin of the sun. Left on its own, the Bible does give the impression that the sky was a gigantic glass dome (the firmament) keeping "the waters above" from crashing down on us. Left on its own, the Bible gives the impression that the stars are little lights IN the firmament. Left on its own, the Bible gives the impression that the earth does not move, but the sun moves relative to the earth. Joshua cries out "sun, stand still," not "earth, stop rotating." We accept the wisdom of the world that none of those things is so. And we do so only after persecuting the worldly wisdom that sought to correct the error. So now we say with confidence that evolution and homosexuality are line crossers: that no matter that the vast majority of biologists accept evolution as fact, including the evolution leading to modern man, that no matter that every scientific inquiry into homosexuality is leading researchers to the conclusion that these people are born that way and do not choose their orientation any more than straight people choose their orientation, THIS is the world wisdom that must be rejected in favor of scripture? I just want to know where the line is between accepting science for what it demonstrates by the evidence and rejecting it as "worldly wisdom." Contradicting scripture can't be it, because if that's the standard, then we have to profess a flat earth under a glass dome holding back an oceanic sky, with the sun, moon and stars all located inside the dome. We DO reject that, right? So contradicting scripture can't be the line. So what is?

Came back from the mechanic today. He said there were two things wrong with my car. First, he said, the engine was about to fall apart. If I waited another day to get it fixed or replaced, I would have needed a new engine or a new car in short order. "That's strange," I said. "Normally if something's wrong with my engine, the check engine light comes on to warn me." "That," my mechanic said, "is the second thing that's wrong with your car. The check engine light isn't working." ... John, I respect your position of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." But I submit that it's broke, and you're missing it because you can't even see that your check engine light is broken. ... I can't get past the fact that we were taught by a con man who employed a methodology indistinguishable from a fraud, producing results indistinguishable from fraud, yet somehow believe there's nothing fraudulent about what we did. I understand that there's disagreement about this, and I respect it. But that's where I stand.

I would imagine that if you were to believe that knowledge and wisdom at its highest worldly levels is irredeemably corrupt, you would want to avoid it as ungodly. The trick would be to recognize when you've crossed the line from genuine empirical knowledge to opinions that mask themselves as advanced knowledge. No?

Commando ?

Shallow Halloween

The incredible story of one FedEx employee's journey to deliver a package.

Second title first AGAIN?

LOL. Nice one, George. Marvel's The Avengers

Are you saying that there was an Austrian action star in this one? Hmmm.

If I were designing the poll today, I would add the following options: I didn't fake it. I believe it's real but not necessarily as taught by any of the denominations listed above. And/Or I didn't fake it; not 100 percent sure how it works, but it would not surprise me to learn that many, if not most, people faked it. Again, I apologize for my early use of the the words "liars" and "lying" and all its variations. I do believe we were all being sincere and that we WANTED this experience to be real. My opinion of how far we were willing to go, to the point of self-deception, obviously differs from the honest opinion of other posters.

That was very, very big of you, chockfull. I have not had the occasion or the interest to "lead" other non-believers into "SIT." I am awaiting the publication of a linguistic study of the practice and am refraining from revisiting this topic in any substantive way until then.

I was hoping Kristen Bell and the obvious Mars reference would do the trick. You're up.

After Kristen Bell's friend is murdered and her father is removed as county sheriff, she dedicates her life to fighting off an attack from the creatures from Red Planet

For personal reasons, I am withdrawing from the serious side of this conversation. It's not that I've changed my mind, but I just think it's best at this point that I stay out of it. If anyone wants to continue the discussion, feel free. If mods are called in, I promise to ask others for input and intervention first.

We could always start arguing again, bring it to 125

Reese Witherspoon Pleasantville Tobey Maguire

After her best friend is murdered and her father is removed as county sheriff, a woman dedicates her life to fighting off an attack from the creatures from Red Planet

Dudley, Do (the) Right Thing!

Sandra Bullock Speed Dennis Hopper

Dan Aykroyd My Girl Macauley Culkin

Sylvester Stallone Victory Pele Just kidding. Sylvester Stallone First Blood Brian Dennehy

tee hee. I'll allow it. ;)

While WordWolf correctly ascertained the point of my recent posts and accurately anticipated my response to the answers I received, I was (and still am) prepared to let it go. I think I made my point, but I thank my old friend for expounding on it to make it clear to everyone else. Been thinking a lot about the content of this thread and its implications for me personally, but in truth I have nothing to add to the discussion that already got too contentious for civil discourse more than once, for which I hold myself well more than half responsible. Be well, all.