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Speaking in tongues was the worm at the end of the hook that was PFAL. It was bait. You promise "power" in the title of the class. You build up to the manifestation of that power. And then, when the time comes, you lead them into a totally phony display of so-called power that can't be verified, allegedly can't be refuted, etc. With everyone in the class performing the same totally non-spiritual action while imagining that everyone else around them is experiencing the real thing, there was an incredible amount of pressure on each person to refrain from spilling the beans. No one, myself included, had the courage to stand up and say, "BUT HE'S NAKED!!!" Even now, there are many of us who won't admit this is what happened. The preceding is my opinion. I apologize if anyone is insulted, but I truly believe that is precisely what happened. The only power at work in PFAL was the power of persuasion and groupthink.
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Demolition Man Wesley Snipes Major League
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Actual Errors in Genesis
Raf replied to Raf's topic in Atheism, nontheism, skepticism: Questioning Faith
See, if that's the case, then the anachronisms are errors, but the notion that Moses wrote the first five books of the Bible is not a Biblical error. The implication, then, is that I can no longer think of it as an "error" that the last chapter of Deuteronomy describes Moses' death and burial, etc. That's only an error if the Bible claims Moses wrote the book. But that claim is not actually in the Bible. P.S.: Trust and Obey, considering that you probably disagree with where I'm coming from, I thank you for participating in this discussion so honestly. -
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Joel Grey Cabaret Michael York (Go ahead and run imdb on him. I won't tell.
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Linda Blair Repossessed Leslie Nielsen
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Valerie Perrine Superman II Terrence Stamp
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Just two this time: The wife of a university research scientist believes that her lakeside Vermont home is haunted by a ghost - or that she's losing her mind. Her investigation leads her to the whereabouts of Taylor, the last survivor of the Icarus, as well as a cult of deformed people who worship a nuclear bomb.
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Dead Poets Society Kurtwood Smith Star Trek VI
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Actually, the "one song s***" was later in the movie, after he sang "Darling Nikki." But yes, it is Purple Rain. "Jungle Love" and "The Bird" were performed by Morris Day and The Time
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Cocoon Steve Gutenberg Three Men and a Baby
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Go ahead
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Nope. Only two of those songs are by the artist you're thinking of, and neither was in Batman.
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Let's Go Crazy When Doves Cry Jungle Love The Bird That's four different songs.
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The Woman in Red Dawn of the Dead
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"At one time most of my friends could hear the bell, but as years passed it fell silent for all of them. Even Sarah found one Christmas that she could no longer hear its sweet sound. Though I've grown old the bell still rings for me, as it does for all who truly believe." "The thing about trains... it doesn't matter where they're going. What matters is deciding to get on."
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Actual Errors in Genesis
Raf replied to Raf's topic in Atheism, nontheism, skepticism: Questioning Faith
You're suggesting that the books of Moses were part of an oral tradition that was later put to paper, and that the anachronisms are the result of the late writing as opposed to the late composition. The problem I see here is that even if we are to accept that camels are a symbol of wealth, the anachronism still holds. Whatever the animal was, it wasn't a camel, and it makes no sense to change the animal into a camel to convey wealth when the original animal would have done the job quite nicely. It is not the same at all as an English translation using English weights and measures to convey simple concepts in a translated scripture, because we can go back to the scriptures themselves and see what the original wording was. Yes, we know it wasn't a penny. But we also know it doesn't really SAY penny in the text. We don't know that with Genesis. The only evidence we have is that it says camels. Anything else is speculation. If speculation satisfies your need to clarify an error, I can't argue with you. It doesn't satisfy mine. Usually when I read historical information about wealth, the writer is explicit in using the term "the equivalent of" to make sure we understand that the conquistadors didn't use "dollars" as currency. We see no indicators in Genesis that they're talking about anything other than camels. A better explanation would be that they were talking about a different animal, and that the translators were not familiar with that animal so they used the word camel, which they were familiar with. That's why I don't get in a huff about the Bible's descriptions of unicorns. Yes, the Bible does talk about unicorns. No, the creatures described are not horses with a horn growing out of their heads. So what was it? I have no idea. Atheists who rail about the Bible mentioning unicorns are taking a cheap and easy shot. Truth is, we don't know what the Bible is talking about, so it's best to just leave it be. There are enough real errors to worry about errors that arise from confusion or lack of clarity. I'm not sure there's any evidence of confusion in the translation of camels. The simplest solution is that Genesis was not written by Moses. It was written centuries later by people who had no way of knowing that they were guilty of introducing an anachronism into their story. Likewise, the description of Abraham as coming from Ur of the Chaldeans could only make sense if written at a time AFTER the Chaldeans were in Ur. Again, that would have been long after the time of Moses. Again, genuine question: where is the BIBLICAL evidence that Moses wrote Genesis? Is there any? Or did we just assume it because it's what we were told? -
Home Alone 2 Macauley Culkin My Girl
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One of the better known moments in this film is a speech that few in the American audience even understood, as it was delivered in a foreign language. Translated, the speech reads: "How did I find myself here? They say my famous lover held down my husband and I cut his head off. But it's not true. I am innocent. I don't know why Uncle Sam says I did it. I tried to explain at the police station but they didn't understand." In the same scene, red scarves indicate guilt. But the character who gave the speech above pulls out a white scarf. The movie took liberties with its source material by having its defining plot conceits and sequences all taking place inside the main character's head. The film's lead actor learned to tap dance for the courtroom scene. No body or foot doubles were used. People are often surprised to learn this is based, Rather loosely, on a true story.
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Jon Cryer Superman 4: The Abomination Gene Hackman
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Heh heh heh
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Let's Go Crazy
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Lethal Weapon III Mel Gibson Maverick