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Raf

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  1. The third and final chapter in the Evil Dead series. You're up.
  2. Getting back to your point, I think it is possible to reject a "God-breathed Bible" without rejecting a "God-breathed Word," and without dismissing God as a "metaphorical concept." Plenty of people believe in a personal God as a divine entity without thinking that every preposition in the Bible was placed there by God Himself, or that the integrity of His message would "fall apart" if any other preposition were used. My belief is that morality does not come from our religion, but that some of our religion comes from our morality. A morally advanced culture would have posited a God who was far more moral than what we see in Yahweh. Yahweh's attributes were assigned to him by a people who were not where we are, morally. They did not ban slavery. They viewed women as the property of their fathers and husbands. That's why when a woman is raped in the Bible, the rapist has to pay the father and marry the woman as punishment. Why is that? Because the father's property loses value! It was a law that may have seemed compassionate at the time, but you can only reach that conclusion by looking at the law through a culturally relativistic lens. But you can't argue cultural relativism while at the same time upholding Yahweh as the author of an absolute, objective morality. If God is the author of absolute, objective morality, then His law should be absolutely and objectively moral. This thread takes the existence of God for granted, takes the Law for granted as His Word, and questions whether that premise holds up. That's why I bristle at the argument that He made everything better later. "Well, Jesus didn't approve of slavery." Well, so what if he didn't? He didn't argue against it as an institution either. He took it for granted. And even if he DID call for its abolition, it would not change the fact that he would be undoing what an absolute, objectively moral God authorized for centuries beforehand. That's why T&O's approach to this is crucial. He appears to understand that to "win" this "argument," he has to make the case that Yahweh's law passes moral muster today. My position is, it does not. My position is, believers know it does not, but have never forced themselves to look long and hard at the issue. Etc.
  3. Chris Cooper American Beauty Annette Benning
  4. Character 1: "Does this look like 'gub' or 'gun'?" Character 2: "Gun. See? But what does 'abt' mean?" Character 3: "It's 'act.' A-C-T. Act natural. Please put fifty thousand dollars into this bag and act natural." Character 1: "Oh, I see. This is a holdup?"
  5. You wouldn't know it from the title, but this horror-comedy was the last chapter of a trilogy. Tagline: Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.
  6. Here is the shortest clue you're going to see in this thread, I'll bet: Dinosaurs v. Zombies
  7. Breedlove is Terms of Endearment. Nicholson won Oscars for those roles.
  8. Tagline: Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.
  9. R.P. McMurphy Garrett Breedlove Melvin Udall
  10. Well then. You're gonna have trouble figuring the rest out, aren't you. Terrible, terrible trouble.
  11. I found that if I followed through on what the Bible says about God, the concrete things, not just the feel-good-isms, follow them through to their logical conclusions, and you end up with moral questions whose answers range from unsatisfying to genuinely frightening. Scarcely a comforting answer in the bunch, when you carry it through to its logical conclusion. Most of us never ask the questions. We're taught that merely entertaining the questions makes you evil and immoral. But how much more immoral can you be than someone who will kill you to death for picking up sticks on a Friday night and thinks the victim of a rape is the woman's father or husband?
  12. But what you describe isn't questioning God because it denies him outright. Not a comforting or satisfying approach for the average Christian, no? Or have I misinterpreted you? I don't think I'm smarter or more moral than God, by virtue of the fact that I don't believe He exists. But if you were to take the premise that He exists for granted, as well as the premise that the Bible accurately reflects his character, then I believe you have to conclude that his moral standards are lower than yours. He's capricious. His application of justice is arbitrary. He's vindictive as hell. Wierwille had to retcon the entire Old Testament just to absolve Him of the moral atrocities attributed to Him. But it doesn't fit. If you kept Yahweh's attributes intact and changed his name to Allah, we would not be debating these things. The defensive walls go up for the God we worship, and him alone.
  13. Does it? How? (I assume your reason for saying this is on-topic. Just trying to draw it out).
  14. Well, one thing I hate about this game is when one person knows the one title, the other person knows the second, but neither knows both. Maybe George can figure it out from here. If not, I'll have to come up with nine other things.
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