Raf

I'm not questioning whether the Bible speaks of an afterlife. It obviously does. I'm questioning WHEN that belief began to surface. I submit it was rather late in the theological development of the,Hebrew religion. I could be wrong. Does Moses make an unambiguous reference to an afterlife?

This game is rigged.

That's a lot less ambiguous.

As I read the whole chapter, verse 12 does not actually look like it's looking forward to a later promise. Rather, it looks very much like this awakening you mention will never take place at all. Mind you, this is Job speaking in despair, so it's not quite doctrine. I asked for an unequivocal reference to an afterlife. I humbly submit that Job 14 is equivocal at best, and at worst it reflects an active belief in no afterlife at all.

I think, in context, Job 14:14 comes off more as "wishful thinking" than a promise that this is going to happen. It really seems there like Job is lamenting that an afterlife is not the case. But I could easily be wrong.

Honest question, and I don't mean to be all "questioning faith atheist" about this one: Where is the first indication in the Bible of anything that can unequivocally be referred to as an "afterlife," a life subsequent to someone's death? Let me know if you think my question is off topic, and I'll move it. But I do think it relates directly to the issue of "salvation," seeing as salvation would be, by definition, the promise of a favorable afterlife.

We got something. I ain't saying what it is. Minor correx, but there it is

Backtracking for a second here because of the botched Superman quote and botched correction. "Fly. Don't look. Just... fly. We've got... something. I'm not saying what it is. Just... trust me."

I will be reviewing one quasi-edit based on feedback and asking other moderators to reconsider the rest. Thanks for the feedback

Dustin Hoffman

Wild guess: tombstone

Ned Beatty Superman Christopher Reeve (Rules note: you CAN go with a sequel, but only to move on to an actor who wasn't in the original. And then you can't go back to another sequel unless you're moving to yet another actor who wasn't in... Example, it's ok to go from Braveheart to Mel Gibson to Lethal Weapon to Danny Glover... but once you've got Danny Glover, you can't go to Lethal Weapon II and pick the actress who played Glover's wife. However, you CAN go to Lethal Weapon II and pick Joe Pesci, because he wasn't in Lethal Weapon. All of which is to say... you can use a Superman sequel here, but you can't go to an actor who was in the first Superman).

Kirstie Alley Look Who's Talking Abe Vigoda

Paul Lynde (I hope) Charlotte's Web Debbie Reynolds

Say hello to grandmama... You're up

Seriously? Okay, um... Life isn't some cartoon musical where you sing a little song and all your insipid dreams magically come true. So let it go. ... I thought this city would be a perfect place where everyone got along and anyone could be anything. Turns out, life's a little bit more complicated than a slogan on a bumper sticker. Real life is messy. We all have limitations. We all make mistakes. Which means, hey, glass half full, we all have a lot in common. And the more we try to understand one another, the more exceptional each of us will be. But we have to try. So no matter what kind of person you are, I implore you: Try. Try to make the world a better place. Look inside yourself and recognize that change starts with you. ... "Actually, it's your word against yours. And if you want this pen, you're going to cooperate with my investigation on finding that missing otter, or the only place you'll be selling pawpsicles is the prison cafeteria... It's called a hustle, sweetheart." "She hustled you good! You're a cop now, Nick! You're gonna need one of these!"

Are we supposed to ignore the fact that Galen just posted?

Hayden Christensen. And if you haven't seen Shattered Glass, please do so immediately. It proves that HC is a very good actor ill served by George Lucas.

Anakin Skywalker

Tortilla Soup Elizabeth Pena La Bamba

Ron Howard American Graffiti Charles Martin Smith

It is Stephen Glass. Now stop whining. It really makes you seem less threatening when you whine. And just name the actor.

Y'all on doctrinal turf.

Oh, I'm up. ok... David Rice Sam Monroe Stephen Glass Clay Beresford Name the actor. There's one more character, and it's a giveaway (though the other character has been played by more than one person). One of the characters listed above would also be a giveaway for me, but I'm not so sure it is for the rest of you. It's a work thing.

"Say hello to Grandmama. Ice 'em!"