Trefor Heywood

I seem to recall that famous and wealthy people in Scientology are treated very differently to the ordinary herd. That reminds me of TWI too.

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As I know it's 100%... Sure we can talk - don't everybody?

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Another influence on Hitler was Richard Wagner, not merely because Hitler loved the music (as I do) but because Wagner's writings fell in very much with Nazi ideas. Here is an example.. There is also some interesting stuff about Kaiser Wilhelm II's antisemitism which got worse during his years of exile. Perhaps Luther, Wagner and Wilhelm would have been staggered at the results their influence produced but they nevertheless helped to point the way.

Well Ron G there are pages supporting the legend and pages decrying it. The most convincing for me is: An analysis by a Welsh speaker But it's still a romantic thought! :)--> :P-->

Thanks Ron G will do a google as you suggest as a Welsh indian tribe certainly sounds interesting! And in Mr. Hammeroni's reference to Martin Luther it's quite true. Luther called amongst other things for genocide against rebellious peasants. I also once saw a book that had been printed during WW2 entitled Martin Luther - Hitler's Spiritual Ancestor. Also there was another Martin Luther who was recorded as having attended the Wansee Conference where the final solution was decided upon. And VPW always counted Martin Luther as one of his heroes - like Luther pinned his 95 theses on the Church in Wittenburg, so VPW "pinned" a copy of Jesus Christ is NOT God to the door of his old church in Van Wert...

I wonder if Craigers liked the Flash so much because they had a similar taste in tights... ;)-->

I bet she is happy being certified - all the way to the Bank.

It's just that who displaced whom arguments can be made all over the place Ron G. I haven't heard about the Mandan indians but then I hadn't heard of the Tonawanda indians either until I went to Niagara Falls NY. There are many tribes which don't appear to get much mention in history. Genocide and ethnic cleansing are are alas not the sole preserve of the Nazis. But having thought a little more deeply the Holocaust deniers have a lot more explaining to do about the overall way the Nazis behaved even to non-Jews and even to their own Aryan countrymen. I wish I would make VPW and LCM and other deniers sit and watch the excellent BBC series The Nazis - A Warning from History which I have on DVD.

What should have given us pause was that this was nothing to do whatsoever with "rightly dividing" the Word. But rather everything to do with the "wrongly dividing" of history. And it was all plagiarised from other sources, not even a claim of an original thought here. And Ron G - can you justify stealing America from its native inhabitants etc etc? Your argument about Israel and its leaders can lead down a dangerous road...

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And also as Bedouin Arabs were Semites and they were not anti them, they considered this argument reinforced.

I think part of it was a desire to be contraversial so it got you noticed. But LCM revelled in it - I remember when the European WOW Festival in Owens Park Manchester UK was being picketed after the news of what TWI thought got out. He was enjoying himself with phrases such as: How can they call us anti-semitic when there aren't any semites to be anti? It was a two fingers up approach, nothing to do with protecting young people.

I will take you being stumped as a compliment Raf! :D-->

He made a big issue of his appearance at the inauguration in the Way Rag but was mighty quiet on the details of how he got there in the first place. Doubt he was A list as he certainly didn't get a personal intro...

Welcome back Raf! Bet it wouldn't have taken you three days to get Ghandi :D-->

You got it Pirate! But they all were in the movie! The prayers in the garden is right at the beginning of the move at the start of the assassination scene. The sweet way sweet time bit was said by the South African overseer after the charge of the horses when they all laid down on the ground. The machine gun bit is during the questioning of General Dyer after the Amritsar massacre. The Charlie bit is the Vicar whom he first met in South Africa when he tells Ghandi in jail in India that he is being sent away as a missionary to the south seas somewhere. And the getting warm with Chaplin - both films were directed by Richard Attenborough. Ghandi won 9 Academy Awards. Over to you! :D-->

A large part of Chaplin is set in America George! :D--> But you may be closer in a way than you think...

The movie has at least one American in it but is not set in America. Another quote: An eye for an eye makes the whole World blind. also: There are no goodbyes for us Charlie. That should make it a little easier...

No problem Long Gone. -->

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Yes it did and it won a few Oscars too. Another quote shortly! :D-->

"If I had bothered..." Time and knowledge of their location can be factors - some of us have to work and have a plethora of other demands on our time. I saw a helluvalot about this case on TV when I was in the States and I assume the media "could not be bothered" to cover this stuff in such detail. But one can be bothered to be concerned about the general issues involved, not just in Terri's case but generally. And to quote Sam Goldwyn: A verbal contract isn't worth the paper it's written on.

Long Gone What I said was nothing to do with "credible evidence" but it was about the attitude regarding the element of doubt which is usual in such cases. There have been people diagnosed as PVS who have recovered and there is no way that 100% certainty can be guaranteed. If the person has left a proper living will then that doubt should be put aside after all proper assessments have been made in favour of that expressed wish. We have only Michael's word for what Terri wanted and therefore the doubt had to remain. In such a situation the doubt can only be resolved (an it still has not in the mind of several people) with the aftermath of an irreverisble situation.