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Was he also required to fold his underwear in a perfect square too? 4" x 4" ?

Jesus said, "My sheep hear my voice..." I think it was His voice that called us out of the way... He must have seen the brokeness, the confusion, the pain... "Doctrines of Devils?" How subtle and evil can evil get? To infiltrate your mind at its core? To take love, inoccense, trust and faith; Then wreck, mangle and destroy. To absolutely STEAL, KILL and DESTROY Those who put money in their own horn. Damn it all! Just damn it all!

Gosh! Ditto! Ditto! Ditto!

To be honest with you it's been a long time since I have felt any real emotions either. Like JavaJane any emotion that would cause me grief, empathy, or sadness I would consider as an attack from the Adversary. It was all fear (False-Evidence-Appearing-Real);I needed to shut out the feelings and renew my mind. I would often wonder why some of the tragic events on the news would not phase me. I would sum it all up that they weren't walking in the light of God's Word so of course "what do you expect Worldy people!" For me today, I am grateful that I have cried a few times at the movies and that my heart goes out to the victims on the news. I have been such a fricken robot, numbed to the core, Way Disciple these past few years that it is a miracle that I can feel at all. My emotions are still a roller coaster ride but I know it is all going to be so much better.

Not too sure that this is on the topic but I feel it sort-of pertains. I recently chatted with a psychic who attends a local Assembly of God Church here in town. She told me I was delivered from great bondage and wanted to know what this "chanting was that came from the ministry." "Oh," I said,"they teach you on video how to speak in tongues!" Her mouth dropped! She shook her head and said,"You can't learn how to speak in tongues by a video class! It's a gift from God!" This woman...possessed by the and filled with debel spirits...had more common sense and spiritual insight than I have had in the past 20 years. I appreciate this post and have learned a lot from it. I always thought "Believing = Receiving" was like witchcraft because you'd have to possess "magical spell-power" to make anything happen.

I have never heard or seen a verse like that in the Bible. You might want to look some of those key words up in a concordance.

That "weak mangy puppy" was me! Trying ever so hard...as beaten up as I had become by them...struggling to "fit/get in". After all, this was "The Way" and only way to God's heart. Blah! Blah! Blah!

These people are SICK!!! Completely outta touch! If I were to attend one of these CES prophecy meetings they would throw me out for laughing histerically (sp?) It is all too crazy! Seems TWI and these off-shoots get crazier and crazier as time goes on...great comic relief!

Her words are nothing more than a "front"! Trust me "speaking up" is still not tolerated. You are viewed as a trouble maker then hit with all their renewed mind sh$!t! NOTHING has changed. "Wishes TWI would dissolve in 2012"

This is scary! I never was involved with The WOW field or WC because I kept my full-time career. I always felt so guilty for not putting God first this way. Recently, like last month, I was approached with a propacision (sp?)to take The Advanced Class on W&P this coming summer so I could eventually go "on Staff" at HQ's. Because of this website my life won't be ruined! Once again, thank you GS! It's all too crazy!

Bingo! Can only laugh about it now.

Thanks Sunese! My comments have been provocative, spiritually speaking. I hope you all at GS will forgive me. I left TWI last week and feel really scammed by "religion". I need a new pair of glasses now.

Well, I am a Dudette but don't blame you for the mix up. I have re-read this post and can't believe I spent 25 years in TWI recruiting God-Hungry people, teaching at Fellowship Meetings, running to HQ's on my only vacation time, trying not to second guess my "standing on The Word" and Believing to Receive...only to find out that I have lost my faith in all things Spiritual! Now wanting "proof" of the existance of God and Jesus Christ? Validate! Validate! Validate! I don't want to be scammed again! There are so many theories out there like we're all aliens in a big experiment...fortunately, I am not that far gone yet. I think I'll get back in line. Thanks for all of your comments!

Wow Thanks! Now that is just what I'm looking for! I will definitely read it. On another thread I stated that I would come up with my own concept of God and Jesus; I suppose this has happend to many here at Greasespotcafe.com. It's easier to believe in a god and Savoir of the World if they are a bit more like yourself. Ya' know, maybe they'll eventually delete this post?

Thank you Excathedra! I'm going to develope my own concept of God and of Jesus Christ. From now on both of them are loving and caring towards ALL mankind. Goodness towards that do good and evil towards those that do evil. Kind of like basic karma 101. I agree with you, I don't think the real God is mean either. Thanks! Would like to buy you a cup sometime!

It's very possible the CLM was a repressed bi-sexual man. I'm no Doctor of Pyschology but his actions do stand to question his own sexuality. I, for one, have gone to extreme lengths to rid myself of this homosexual Debel spirit...fearing hell and all that. I am not a "man-hater" and was never M&A'd. I married to prove to myself that I was delivered and really enjoyed him, but still had my secret fantasies. As a cheerleader and a teenager I remember how suicide would be the only answer. I thoroughly understand what homosexuals go through in society. The bigotry, hatred, and ignorance is truly unwarranted. Not one of my homosexual friends or lovers have ever tried to deceive me spiritually or take 10% plus of my income for their personal profit. They have been more loving and caring without conditions placed upon me than any Way Disciple I have dealt with lately. God knows what my sexuality is...I can't hide it from Him; so why hide it at all anymore? I have read other threads where homosexuality is discussed. Without a doubt I feel homosexuality is genetic. With so much hatred promoted by the majority of the Christian religion, to the point of even murder, "why" would anyone choose to be Gay? The best advice I have for LCM is to explore his sexual fantasies, but not at the expense of hurting others. Remember Jim Baker from that Christian TV Network (PTL or something like that)that absolutely hated homosexuals? Turned out that ol' CLM...I mean Jim, was a latent homosexual! I hope I didn't get off topic.

How about being locked in a closet with a giant sized Way Syllabus and hearing loud laughter? And my favorite recurring dream: I'm in a large house filled with wonderful luxuries (can't spell today), a place of high esteem. I happen to waved back to the cute lady across the street...then, wham! Out of nowhere a group of Way Disciples enter my house and take everything I own! I am left with nothing.

My God, I am so tired of them! Yes, lets use the economic recession with politics now. Makes me wonder how many Waffers are on government assistance these days. Thanks for the update!

Hey GS Web Administrator! Suppose we could just delete this post? It obviously is a "go nowhere question."

Thanks JavaJane! You are too cool! After so many years of manipulation with TWI, I find myself questioning the validity of "everything". Even to the point that Christianity as a whole might be nothing more than a giant hoax. Wow, what citisizm? I guess I am just crazy right now but will get through it. Guess I'll purchase one of those anti-cult psychology books availalbe through your links here at Greasespotcafe.com.

Hey, thanks for all of your replys. I no longer subscribe to "fear tactics" about standing before YHWH or God or whatever anymore. Can't name three Christians or Waffers that I would like to spend eternity with. If it is true that non-believers' will simply be no more after the Judgement then it might be a better deal. Actually, I think I am looking for scientific evidence. After TWI, I no longer can trust my emotional side concerning "religion". Hmmm, wonder if I can just delete this post?

I was just wondering how many of you have really experienced "knowing" the invisable Jesus? What concrete evidence do you have that he is still alive? I have been brainwashed since birth to believe in Jesus Christ even though we have no original documentation (Greek manuscripts)to prove the New Testament is factual. Please do not reply with "you can feel him in your heart" or "if you have love or compassion in your life then you have Christ" because even the Neanderthal's cared for and about their own. And please, not the old Baptist saying of "You've got to go by faith." So, there is this invisable God who sent his physical son to save Israel. Israel first, then God decides he wants to save the rest of the world...but if you weren't Jewish you were considered a "dog". Just goes to show you how hateful man-made religions can be. Jesus defeated Satan? Really? Where's the proof? God vs. Satan...good vs. evil. What if it's really the choices we make in this life? I could go on and on...but really, has anybody met the invisable Jesus?