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Then in the dreams of his nap, Timothy Leary appeared, but Dr. knew Timothy Leary is dead; then Dr. started to realize, that Dr. was the one outside, looking in?

It sure seemed that way sometimes, show your commentant, do you have green backs, I remember going to this study group a lot of times, they had all these tapes I could have listen to, but I was not a greener, maybe if I had a limon aid stand on their corner, my believing would have goten me some listening time on those tapes?

Like born again, should be born anew? A seed planted in good soil, growing up in a new nature; we are of the nature of Adam, being born anew, one has a new nature which grows fruit, Gal 5, old nature, new nature, not spirit?

I went to the rock of ages for the first time in 1882, I had no money, I scrap all I could for that class, 200 bucks; so I just went on believing to the rock. I had a sleeping bag and some guy there gave me a tent to use, that was the time of my life at that rock, but to eat, I worked at this wow hamburger joint stand thing their, so I asked the guy for a hamburger today, who knows, maybe my believing will get him a hamburger Tuesday, but that guy said he could not give me one. I had to steal a hamburger to eat at the rock, but I went to work everyday to steal my hamburger. I thought if I worked for my food, just maybe the way would give me some food? I am not like you guys, the leaders of the body, but I heard storys about what you guys went through in your leadership training, did youin's find yourself's stealing food from the way, yet was you?

I left the wow field back in 83, was just thought of that blue pin too much, because of the wow's who bend over backwards to teach me the word, so I went home in Cheyenne Wy. One day I was driving down the road and I saw this van with that green way bumper sticker, and I heard, move in with them, so I stopped and went over there to that van, a few days later we were in a house; they found the house and I put up the dough, as far as I was concerned, they could have the house, I want to do some way thing living, and I was, I was doing good. No, but one of those people in that van was a bully, I found myself looking at the table being lifted up against the wall, and the leg being rip off, this big bully told me to get out of that house 1:00 at night, just because he was a con man. This guy worked leadership; but I got to meet Michail T. O'buck, it all worked out. People with heart, can get hurt bad, because of what the way has become.

Later on that day, he laid down for a nap thinking, I have been searching for my dreams, a hundred times today; I build them up, and I knock them down, like they were made of clay; then the tide rushes in, and washes his castles away; and he's really not so sure, of which side of the bed he should lay, never reaching the end?

It is funny how people stop believing in one group, then start their own group or go to other group, but always carry that spirit teaching with them? Follow the patten on that spirit teaching, how it creeps along from group to group? Just how many spirit teachings are out their, it just seems one can take that spirit, and twist it to ones liking? The Way turned out to be another spirit teaching group? How sad the Way turned out to be a joke, another world spirit teaching group? Just in case the Way was right, let's hang on to our spirit teaching, just in case? Satan trick the world with that spirit teaching, but not the Way, their spirit teaching was from snow falling from the July sky? It is too easy, to take that spirit teaching out of the bible, but people while fight you over that, the Way teaches spirit teaching, they might just be right? That eternal life is too easy to understand, but the Way might be right, let's hang on to our spirit life teaching, just in case that was really snow? I know what the man who put on robes, and called himself a Doctor was called to do, but people got tricked by Martindale, you still got the spirit teaching? The Way would give me a nose in the air, because I would tell them to stick that spirit teaching junk right up their bullfrogs? I get a nose in the air for telling people Martindale tricked them, why the spirit? I get a nose in the air for peepeeing on your back, and telling you it is raining; the Way did that with their spirit teaching? But just in case The Way is right, maybe people should hang on to that spirit teaching stuff, just in case?

Theirs that spirit teaching, what a pain, all the crazy things being taught because of it. John 5:25 or 26 that life is the key.

That is way out their dude, I think you need to wash your mind out with soap?

Their you go buddy, if you walked into a three in one god church, a zero attitude would get you through that day? Remember not to run against the wind; don't drink alone, you got old grand dad; and when you die, just have them stand up next to jute box; hang in buddy.

I do not understand, you are a cult that is before page 1, of the bible? Maybe the word does fit like a hand in a glove, I get it now, you are from that cult that was in that garden that "Iron Butterfly" sang about? I thought I heard "Iron Butterfly" sing about that stone heng thing with that alter stone, in that song? How can you S.I.T. and call yourself zero, it take a lot you know what to do that; You said this, I won't go that far personally, I would not like that to be said about my own life. I may say it myself about my own life but it is different when other say that about me. VPW brought me into the word when I was 18 and at that time I was planning my own death. I met him personally and he was the one who taught the week of my own WOW training. Had it not been for his ministry (as errant as it may have been) I may not have survived those turbulent years of my youth. He was not a complete zero as we in the west understand zero to mean. What I personally witnessed was a humble man who did not put on as many airs as he could have. Though parts of his doctrine could be construed as hateful and even hypocritical it was not nearly over the top. I personally don't care what most people do in their own bedroom as long as they don't judge me for my lifestyle. The man had a heart but was troubled by his own demons, he was human, aren't we all? There are far worse people who have lived in deception and caused far greater damage to humanity as a whole. I see VPW as a person who could have been much worse had God not tempered his walk. I feel the same way about myself and many others I met in the way ministries. Most of us all came from troubled lives with no hope to the refuge of the way and were saved by some sort of dream that helped us to overcome our own tribulations. I have no regrets about my way years I would live them the same way if confronted with a choice. The lord does truly work in mysterious and wondrous ways. Had VPW been perfect perhaps we would never have identified with him. Even nincompoops need love I would not call you zero, that is the same vp I remember. Zero is a manmade thing? Come on man, do not zero out on us, we need your input, come on man? I think I understand something now, I live a zero life as far as the world's standers? Their could be benefits to having a zero attitude about somethings, thanks for your point of view.

I guess he rested his other eye, while put his feet up and watch tv, on them lazy days, sunday afternoons?

I think he covered those gas pumps at night, with that white satin stuff?

I guess he thought he was singer in a rock in roll band?

I think the moody blues recorded a album there?

It is a cool read, glad you enjoyed it; it needs a lot of work, a lot of reasoning out, this come from some words I was working on one day, this stuff is a trip?

Remember that garden that was on the earth in the first heaven in Ezekiel 28:13; their was life forms in that garden, their could have been something like those same life forms, that were in the garden in Gen.; it would seem that if dinosaurs were walking with men on this earth in the second heaven, after the garden, then dinosaurs would be walking with men on the earth in the first heaven? 2027, that is a good point, that Crocodilian thing; what if there were crocodiles on the earth in the first heaven; now, what if Yahweh changed the DNA code to make them big and mean looking on the earth in the second heaven, during that 4 or so billion years period before the garden in Gen., just to jack with Satan's mind, also just to jack with Satan's mind, Yahweh kept destroying those life forms on the earth in the second heaven, in one form or another? Then in the garden in Gen., the animals that were on the earth in the first heaven, were in that garden on earth in the second heaven, just to prove a point to Satan, hey buddy, who do you think your kidding? Just a thought. Could it be, if on the earth in the first heaven, there were so many kinds, I do not know how to say that, in a way? Like on the earth in the first heaven, there are so many kinds, somehow that earth in the first heaven gets destroyed; Yahweh takes that same many kinds, and he twisted the code of the many kinds that was in that garden on the earth in first heaven's DNA and RNA machine like thing, same many kinds, but a twisted many kinds in a way, 4 or so billions years of that, Yahweh destroys that DNA and RNA machine like thing to function, then in the garden in Gen., Yahweh puts back the same DNA and RNA machine like thing code in the many kinds that was on the earth in the first heaven, in that garden on the earth in the second heaven? But on the earth in the second heaven, Yahweh can also have whales, and many more different kinds of many kinds? What did Yahweh tell to replenish the earth, of the many kinds? Could have Yahweh use some of that new twisted kind during that 4 or so billion years period, and add to some of the many kinds that were on the earth in the first heaven, which is now in the garden on the earth in second heaven, to make new kinds, like a platypus?

Now, start walking towards the North; as you are walking towards the North, walking behind you is an individual who has a body, that is composed of a substance, of something called spirit. This individual has some kind of life, that is within this individual’s body, a body which is composed of that substance called spirit. Whatever that kind of life is, that kind of life generates uncontrollable light; a body composed of a substance of whatever spirit is, cannot contain that uncontrollable light, generated by whatever that life is within that individual, that light just shines right through that individual’s body, composed of that substance of spirit. If you were to turn around right now, that light alone would be way to much for any human to look at, face to face, so keep walking towards the North. Now, walking behind that individual, whose name is Yahweh, are 24 more individuals, each of them are wearing a crown of gold; these individuals are carrying a tent, and an ark, and whatever else that is needed, for whatever the service of that tent is. These 24 individuals are called Elders, they have that same kind of life within themselves as Yahweh has, but the uncontrollable light generated by that life they have within themselves, does not shine through these 24 Elders bodies, like Yahweh’s body does. These 24 Elders have some kind of flesh and bone body, that can contain this light, if Yahweh was not walking behind you, you could turn around and look at them, and talk to those 24 Elders. Now, as you are walking towards the North, there are 4 more individuals, called Cherubim’s, they are flying around and above the 25 individuals walking behind you. These 4 Cherubim’s have that same life within themselves that Yahweh has, but the uncontrollable light generated by that life they have within themselves, does not shine through these 4 Cherubim’s bodies, like Yahweh’s body does. These 4 Cherubim’s have some kind of flesh and bone body, that can contain this light; but these 4 Cherubim’s can do something that is too cool. Now, just stop and keep looking towards the North, here come those Cherubim’s carrying Yahweh in front of you, you are now looking at Yahweh, not face to face, but you are being protected from that uncontrollable light, by those Cherubim’s, those Cherubim’s just carried Yahweh back behind you, so you can now keep walking towards the North. Now, you are walking on some kind of surface, a nothing like surface, like nothing is there kind of surface, as you are walking towards the North. As you are walking towards the North, you are coming upon some kind of mountain in this nothingness that you are walking on, stop walking and turn around. Now, you are looking at the North wall of a structure that Yahweh has just created, you are standing outside of this structure, and there is no way into it, this structure separates whatever is outside of it, from whatever Yahweh decides to do in this structure. Now, on the other side of the North wall you are looking at, Yahweh is coming towards that wall, now Yahweh has just laid the North wall of that structure over the nothing. You are now standing on the South edge of the new north room like structure Yahweh just made, looking into that room that Yahweh created. Now turn around, you are now looking at that north room like structure, with that mountain in the middle of this north room like structure. As you look at the north of the north of this room like structure, that is where Yahweh’s thrown is, where Yahweh pitched his tent, and where the 24 Elders are setting on 24 thrown’s, and where the 4 Cherubim’s are. Now, as you look at the east recessed side of the north of this room like structure, there are a lot of seats in that east recessed side. Now, as you look at the west recessed side of the north of this room like structure, there are a lot of seats in that west recessed side. Now, there is no earth or angels, only these 29 individuals there, that is the first heaven without the earth or the angels, there is a whole lot of spirit going on there, what, one body that is composed of a substance called spirit?

Hi, I have a point of view that one could think about, that is a deep subject your getting into there? In the DNA and RNA thread, I showed a machine like thing, and I showed how Lucifer took over the first heaven and earth, it was through that machine like thing; but no dinosaurs on that earth in the first heaven, but their could have been animals, and men and women, so to speak, because their was a garden with stones of fire on that earth in the first heaven. We know that Lucifer flooded that earth out, destroyed all ability for that machine like thing to function. The second heaven, and why it is around this earth, is a story in its self, but to jack with Satans mind, one could look at it this way, kill two birds with one stone, keep Satan in a none stop state of unknowingness, because Satan knows what he destroyed on that earth in the first heaven, and Satan knows that when Yahweh makes a move to redo that garden somehow, so to speak, that is where Satan will make his move, so this would be Satan's thinking? The first bird killed, so all this stuff starts living, so to speak, that machine like thing is back on the earth in the second heaven, 2027 can give you a full detail of all the things that lived on the earth, but what I think is so cool about all that crazy stuff going on, is how Yahweh kept destroying it, things would get a foot hold, a comet comes and destroys some of it, for over a 4 billons years this went on, so to speak. The second bird killed, all the oil and coal, land moving around on plates, mountains, and on and on. Now, no matter what, Satan knows Yahweh is going to redo somehow what Lucifer destroyed in that first garden, Yahweh has been keeping Satan is a constate state of confusion for over 4 billion years, Yahweh makes his move, that garden in Gen. I guess we could say 6 thousand years more or less, but that is why their was a garden on the earth in the second heaven, so to speak. Sorry for answering your thread, I am one of them, "-7"; hope this helps.

Have you ever seen that leader chick at the way, get in a uproar about Genesis? I did not think Phil Collins was all that good of a drummer. Did you hear about that leader chick at the way, when she was getting a drink a milk? The cow kicked her. Do you know why that leader chick at the way, has such brodd shoulders? From raising dumb bells. A horse walks into the bar and said, "You look familiar?" The leader chick of the way at the bar said, "Just sowing some oats, Bud." Did you hear about that leader chick of the way, she took a car door with her, when she went to Israel? I guess she thought when it got too hot, she could just roll down the window.

Did you hear about that leader chick at the way? She throw a bible in the air and missed.

Help me understand this please, I be missing something, I think. My call is to the body, they of the body know who they are; but I think, you think that I should make this call to the world? No, our Father would not want that to happen, their is no way the world will give up that spirit teaching, but those who have ears to hear of the body, will. But I think the body would not want to be enslaved to this, The Way shoved their face's into Chapter and Verse, and look what happen to them, too many people wearing robes, I just think people wearing robes, just makes one want to go and buy a trumpet? But that is what I think, it is cool that you believe in your heart this matter, but just do not get that number; the day of Yahweh is close. It just seems, that the road you want to go on to get in heaven, is a ruff road, full of way to many unknown things; but remember, the power from on high will not be on the earth. I would not know want to do without it, it is all I know. Good luck. I just hate to see you make this your goal in life, can we help you out, their are a lot a great folks here, to help the best they know how; I do not know, the day of Yahweh, I guess I would run for the hills, run for my life. The body was betrayed by a man, Martindale, so my call is to tell the body that Martindale betrayed them, and all the Martindale clone's still teaching that spirit teaching, Martindale was told to rewrite all the books of the way, but Martindale said no way. Their is a place for you, but my call is not for you, their is no way you will give up your spirit teaching; and you were not betrayed, like the way the body was betrayed by Martindale. Had Martindale did what he was told to do, The Way changing before the worlds eye's, throwing everything off the table, starting all over; you had that in your doctrine in a way, that Luther dude, where did that get the world, more spirit teachings? In the body we have a lot of people that throw salt at Yahweh's face, but when Yahweh is in need, they walked away, Martindale clones; so some of those of the body will miss out, but that is on those salt throwers; but steve, things are not much better here ether, but come join us, I will just keep trying to make this call "Dump that spirit teaching", it is on those Martindale clones now, those salt throwers at Yahweh's face.

Thanks Sunesis, that is great stuff, keep your eye on me please, you are a great teacher for me. In that RNA and DNA thread, geisha779 showed us that none of this matters, but we all learned that no one will ever be fooled by buying a book on that matter any more, no, it does not matter; but Martindale was told to teach this stuff; let's figure out what we have been missing out on, all these years. In that DNA and RNA thread, I show why that light, that these different beings have, is important; that mountain with the stones of fire, what I showed, is what Satan did, to betray Yahweh, to know the story, is to know more stuff Martindale robbed the body of all these years. Sure will know one day, but over 30 years ago, this stuff was told to Martindale, to teach this stuff, but we got robbed. What happen on that first earth is key to this? A angel is not a angel for nothing, they played a major role in what was going on in the first earth, 1/3 of those angels leaving, missed everything up dude, what is up there, is up there for a reason, that first earth story is the key, to know what is up there. Help me reason this stuff out, the gathering together is coming soon, let's learn. How does a being with uncontrollable light, have a relationship with the flesh and bone men and women on the first earth, but Satan missed it up big time, to know what he missed up, is to know what heaven looks like, it is all in the bible, you have been reading for years. Who cares about the little things, we can just walk right through heaven, and reason what matters out? The story of the bible really starts at that mountain in the middle of the north, the mount. of congregation, Yahweh did not created that? This story is in the bible, let's learn.

Be sure to stay out of the rain; take care.

Sunesis, Michail T. and I came to the conclusion one day, their is just too many spirit teaching about all the spirit in heaven, but we saw the only big deal about what that spirit is, it was a body? So we started to rip into what was in these different spirit body dudes. Like the 24 Elders, their bodys are not spirit, and the life they have, is that life Yahweh has, but to answer the question of, what are they doing with that life, you think I am nuts, to tell that story, that is nuts; I kinda saw through the years, no matter how many spirit teaching that have creeped into these texts, it seemed that they missed a word or two here and a figure of speech there?