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Doing good Roy, thanks for letting inquire some input on those two thoughts of mine, if you stumble across any info on them their thoughts, let me know. I think I read your post wrong, it seems you don't like king james much, I see a bunch of other stuff, but it would be knit picking, I don't won't to knit pick anymore, cool thread, take care, looking forward for more of your research.

That is cool they changed from time to time, this new knowledge thing, I don't think I have heard that before, could you share that with me?

One of the things about the way, is how they used that one liner, We are a research ministry, if we are wrong, we will change? This is what I was told in 1981, who started that one liner, we will change? The way was mad at me in Cheyenne, when I showed them that life in John 10:10, doen't mean this life we are living now. Use a one liner like that to get people involved, then get mad at them for taking them up on their offer, maybe the way thought no one would question them?

I stumbled across the first time all four of the gospels tell the same story, the feeding of the seven thousand, it is cool how John tells its part of the story. I was wondering if anyone ever noticed how Yeshua told the disciples to row their boat to one place, when they were on the lake, they were rolling towards another place, and after Yeshua walked on the water to them, they went to different place altogether? That is kinda trippe, how those four gospels tell that part of the story?

It was tripe what she taught, I thought I heard a teaching about how in the king james, it tries to avoid the priest thing or something like that; just a crazy thought, how have you been Roy?

I thought I read somewhere, where one of them got free gas?

How would we know the difference, that is a good point, I think, just my thinking; the two gardens, their would be no difference in the DNA code machine thing, making what it made in that garden in the first heaven and the sixth gap, maybe their would be no difference? It seems that in the fifth gap, that life would be different from the other two events?

Would it be possible to look at the four gospels from the stand point of the law, just the law? Sometimes it seems we are ask to by the text, to add this age point of views to the gospels, like John 3:16; just a crazy thought?

Thanks George Aar, if you see me getting to ....y, please point it out for me, thanks. Cman, thanks for that drop box, i think I would be lost without the text, but I see what your saying, like the manifestions, just do them from the heart, without quoting chapter and versus; but I do need a whole lot of work on the listing part, thanks.

cman, I think we can harmonize the four gospel and the first chapter of Acts, but thread space is the problem; but I have half of those gospels already harmonized, we can start their without using so much text. Everybody needs to use the texts that are dear to their hearts, lets rip it apart, who knows, start a tread, thanks. I was thinking, have you ever noticed how with like king james and those offshoots of that text, have each of their versus one way; whereas the Aramaic texts have their versus back wards, like flipped around, does that make sense? Which flip do we use, that is kinda crazy, the chooses we are faced with? We would have to get pawtucket's blessing on this, it is 100, more or less, chapters of text? We could reason it out in the chat room, and post the results in your thread?

Hi Roy, I was thinking about how the King James dude with that religion, who lived on that island; Christine Hayes, this professor lady taught, how that servent teaching in Isaiah, is Yahweh's servant coming out of Babylon, what are your thoughts on what she taught, it is kinda crazy how the king changed that, to teach something else?

What are your thoughts on this garden and six temptations, second adam thought?

Sorry cman, I did not see your last post, great, do you have matt., mark, luke, and john, those old texts have a lot of diamonds in the ruff. Here is something I think no one has ever thought of, by leaving that word wisdom without logos, then those five versus could tie back to the garden in the second heaven. Yahweh told adam not to eat of that tree, but eve eat of it, and adam let her. Those six temptations of Yeshua can be tie back to that account, because of the second adam, and that word life is a trip, the tree of life, what do you think? Roy, I am sorry, please give me input, thanks. What are your thoughts on why a bible is copy righted, how can one copy right a bible? I kinda see how they can get away with it, certain meanings of words were changed. I tried to change the meanings of those words back, to what they used to mean.

I see what your saying now cman, if we change the meaning of that logos word, to just mean wisdom, the first five versus have a lot of insight to the six temptations in which John follows? George Aar, you don't believe, wow, but name calling? I am not the sharpest crayon in the box, but these people will keep bustin my chops, and we will figure it out, or we will go back to square one, who knows, only at the greasespot can one through it out there, the way was in for the money, no reasoning with people in for the money. Thanks for bustin my chops, you are right, I will behave better, thanks.

You are right, i have no say in the matter; but if I find myself in the day of Yahweh after the gathering together, I will say to myself, wow, that spirit teaching was right?

Thanks George Aar, I tried to use the harmonized gospels, John starts to tell the story after the six temptations, but some believe that the gospels cannot be harmonized. Who would have ever thought that people that used to be in the way, would go back to the Trinity, what a trip. Thanks for your insight.

Thanks socks for hanging with me on this, great stuff your pointing out, my approach to this is the monotheism that the history of Israel established. I never knew Jefferson did all that stuff with the bible, he left the resurrection out of his work, that would be wrong to put ones belief into the bible. I try to stick to that monotheism of Israel as a guide, I changed back some words, where the meanings of the words were changed, to back up the Trinity. My approach is that either the monotheism of Israel is true, or the Trinity is true, which one, we cannot have both?

Israel is all about monotheism, the belief in one god, and one god only, that is historical fact. To add another god to Israel's Yahweh, read about what happen to Israel for doing that, no, the Trinity is behind this first 14 versus of John. I can see the first five versus being used to make a point, but that point is not about Yeshua as being Yahweh, but once logos is used, it is better to chuck the first 14 versus of John, because to understand John, is to understand John in context with the other gospels. How cool it was of Yahweh to tell this story like this, four gospels to tell one story, plus the first chapter of Acts. To say monotheism is wrong, is to say Israel's history is wrong? I really think I have been arguing over nothing, when it comes to the first 14 versus of John, those versus have nothing to do with the story line all ready established leading up to the six temptations of Yeshua by Satan. Monotheism was a racial point of view in Israel's history, monotheism must be a racial point of view today, I will stay the monotheism point of view on how and where the gospel of John starts to tell it's story.

Thanks TrustandObey, this Colwell's rule I never heard of, thanks for helping my understanding about all that noun stuff, that is way over my head, I like to learn; I used the word wisdom as wisdom, I don't remember the greek word for wisdom, I think it starts with a S? Logos, that meaning of that word is nothing but a pain, with that word logos, trinity has done so much crazy things with that logos word? The first five verses would fit, but from Verse 6-14, is trying to show more to the story, but that more of the story, contradicts the story that was told before the gospel of John comes into the picture? The gospel of John starts telling the story after the six temptations.

Thanks socks, here is how I have it wrote, John 1:1-1:14; Then Satan left Yeshua; and lo, angels come, and ministered to him. Wisdom was in the beginning, and that very wisdom was with Yahweh, and Yahweh was that wisdom. Wisdom was in the beginning with Yahweh. Everything came to be by Yahweh's hand; and without Yahweh not even one thing that was created came to be. The life is in Yahweh, that life is the light of men; and this light shines in the darkness; and the darkness apprehended it not. starting at verse 15, John testified of Yeshua, and cried, and said, "This is he, of whom I said That is up to verse five, that is as far as I would go with it, maybe we can start here, and reason it out, thanks. The six temptations happen, and then John starts, Then Satan left Yeshua; and lo, angels come, and ministered to him. Before the temptations John has already come.

They harmonize just fine, it took me over 20 years to do it though, The Author of Life Everlasting threads, starting on page 21 or 22, you can see how John fits great, but one has to read what I wrote. All those story flow great in the harmonized gospels, and in context build up.

I can't speak English very well, but I try.

I asked you to leave me alone, Roy, you are a tread destroyer, I would like to reason with people that were in the way, not Trinity that used to be in the way and went back to Trinity. If pawtucket wants to give me the boot, cool; but you are going to leave me alone, Roy.

Thanks socks for your questions, lets start out with determining criteria, All I can say is, I have been harmonizing those gospels for over 20 years, but I agree, so what. I hand wrote them four times, it is in that hand writing of those gospels I notice this forgery stuff in John, and their is a lot of it. King James is in my study bible, Bullinger, but I try to stick with Aramaic texts, what I use is what I learned in PFAL, but PFAL taught me to learn, how to learn; but the bigest thing I learned, I must always think context. My reasoning depends on the gospels in their harmonized format, where does that context go. I just didn't chuck that context out, I worked it, I saw where that word, word, should be wisdom, in John 1:1 In the beginning was wisdom, and that wisdom was.........., I found that wisdom in a set of Kitalls (sorry about the spelling) one day, But I am finding that people don't believe harmonizing can be done, but in the treads of The Author of Life Everlasting, I have half of the work done for you to check it out. What business do I have doing this harmonizing work, I don't, but I did harmonize the four gospels, and used first chapter of Acts. Thanks for your insight.

I don't think in terms of textual criticism thinking, what does not belong, does not belong. Men of spirit belief, added that three-in-one god junk into the word of Yahweh. Please Roy, I would like to have a serious reasoning with people that were in the way, not some apostle of a church with a website, pushin their teachings, Holy Breath the Mother, I do not want anything to do with that stuff, or offshoots of it, please Roy, leave me alone, thank you.