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Hi socks, the bible is a playground for figurative thinking, it sure seems that way at times? Hebrews 8:2 "and Yeshua has become the minister of the Sanctuary, and of the true Tent, which Yahweh pitched, not man"; the tent Moses built, was copied after the tent Yahweh pitched. The tent Yahweh pitched is a physical tent, just like the tent Moses built was physical. The physical things Moses had built for the tent, Yahweh told him to build, are the same things in Yahweh's tent. It is funny how when one hears something enough, like spirit, one just starts accepting it as fact. The fact is that their is way to much spirit, it seems everything is spiritual, spiritual walk, spiritual life, spiritual power, spiritual body, spiritual buildings. It seems VeePee had a hay day with his spiritual exploring; sit next to me on my bus young lady, lets explore the spiritual side of things. Colman stock would be a good deal, but one can make more money with spirit, twist a teaching from the bible with spirit, sell a book? A.T. Robertson wrote a book, Grammer of the Greek New Testament in Light of Historical Research, this guy gets into some words, were the meanings of those words were deliberately changed; these deliberately changed words are nothing but a pain, from the gnosticism twists, up to Constantine twists, up to Luther twists, up to VeePees many ways to explore spiritual matters on his bus. Thanks for your insight socks, it seems that all that spirit twisting of the bible has gotten in my way to share that life with you, sometimes it seems we got to wait until the gathering together of the body, of which Yeshua is the head, to see which spirit twist gets gathered up? I will stay with that life Yeshua got, I remember reading Revelation, and that John saw two groups of people, the first group was small, but the second group was way more bigger then the first; maybe it is going to take the day of Yahweh to convince people, the life that Yahweh has within himself is a noun. Or the life that Yahweh has is spiritual life, a spiritual noun and a spiritual verb? The north is talked about in Isa. 14:13,14; funny thing though, I thought I would look this north stuff up in the Tanakh translation, none of that north business is in the Tanakh translation? Maybe what John saw, thrones and all that stuff in Revelations, was a notion that's anachronistically read back into the old testament to explain the "On the summit of Zaphon" All the bibles in the world have that north, but how that north got in their, is not what is being talked about in 14:13,14-Isaiah is mocking the Assyrian king, the whole world is relieved at the death of the Assyrian king, whose brutality was renowned; but Isaiah is mocking the the king's vain aspirations to god-like status? Thats what is so cool about researching, research it again, trippe stuff. Funny thing about this Tanakh translation, Jesus being the servent teaching in Isaiah, is not in their either; the servent in Isaiah, is Yahweh's servent coming out of Babylon, the Israelites? Maybe a "life after death" has a reason for this room like thing in Revelations, to be overly forced on the old testament? I made the claim that a superiority teaching was added to Hebrews, maybe some of that stuff was add to justify this superiority teaching?
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Thanks everyone of all the input, I made the claim that the ones that do get gathered up at the gathering together, will see Yeshua as he is. John 5:26 states that Yeshua was to have the noun "life" in himself, the same noun of "life" Yahweh has within himself; when Yahweh raised Yeshua from among the dead, Yeshua got that noun "life" in himself. In Luke 24:37-40, Yeshua got that noun "life" in a body of some kind of flesh and bone body, we will be in the north kickin it, maybe those abiding place are tents, that would be to cool, our Father lives in a tent, or used to live in a tent, but their is way more to Yahweh's tent, then living quarters?
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Thanks for your Progressive point of view, but I am not a progressive, just a PFAL grad going foreword with research. Just some word studies I did one day, but thank for your progressive point of view, play nice, stay on topic?
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I wonder if our white horses will be around our abiding places, I remember reading about us getting to ride white horses, just a thought?
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I made the claim that the gospel of John starts telling its story after the six temptations of Satan, the first five chapters of John is the story line, then Luke 4:1 begins to tell the story line of the harmony of the four gospels. The next time John starts telling the story line in the gospels, is when all four gospels tell the same story, the feeding of the five thousand. Here is how I wrote John, staring with 2:12-3:22, this is in the thread of "The Author of Life Everlasting "2"; Afterwards Yeshua went down to Capernaum, he and his mother, and his brothers, and his disciples; and they were there a few days; and the Passover of the Israelites drew near; and Yeshua went up to Jerusalem; and he found in the temple courts those who sold beeves, and sheep, and doves, and the moneychangers sitting there; and he made himself a whip from a cord, and turned them all out of the temple courts, and the sheep, and the beeves, and the moneychangers; and he poured out their money, and overset their tables; and he said to them that sold doves, "Take away these things; and make not my Father's house, a house of trading." But the Israelites replied, saying to him, "What sign show you to us, since you do these things?" Yeshua answered, saying to them, "Tear down this tempe, and in three days it will raise up." The Israelites said to him, "It took forty-six years to build this temple, and will you raise it up in three days?" And while Yeshua was in Jerusalem, at the feast of the Passover, many believed in him, because they saw the miracles which he did; and there was a man of the Pharisees there, whose name was Nicodemus, a ruler of the Israelites. and he came to Yeshua by night, and said to him, "Teacher, we know that you are a teacher sent from Yahweh; for no man can do these miracles that you are doing, unless Yahweh is with him." Yeshua replied, saying to him, "Truly I say to you, that, unless a man be born anew, he cannot behold the sovereignty of Yahweh." Nicodemus said to him, "How can an old man be born? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb, and be born?" Yeshua replied, saying to him, "Truly I say to you, that, unless a man be born of water and new nature, he cannot enter the sovereignty of Yahweh. That which is born of the flesh, is flesh; and that which is born of new nature, is new nature. Be not surprised that I said to you, you must be born of new nature." Nicodemus answered, saying to him, "How can these things be?" Yeshua answered, saying to him, "Are you a teacher of Israel, and yet you do not understand these things?" After these things, came Yeshua and his disciples into the land of Judah. We can reason John 3:11-3:21 back into the story line; but their just seems something is not right with this, it just seems not to line up with the Mosaic covenant somehow? Their seems to be that three-in-one god thing going on? It seems someone is trying to crame something in, instead of letting the story of the four gospels tell the story? Thanks cara, for your insight. I think that the Israelites were all about Monotheism during the time of the story line in the four gospel; it seems that someone tried to tell and or add to, a different event. I think that event is a notion that's anachronistically read back into the four gospels? Just somehow seems that event clashs with the Mosaic Covenant?
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Theirs always next year Roy, but at least you tried.
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Mans deliberate attempt to undermine the gospel of John, John 3:16, that's a notion that's anachronistically read back into the bible; the fact is, John 3:16 is during the Mosaic Covenant. No way around this Mosaic Covenant, Yeshua would not have said what is in John 3:16. The Mosaic Covenant vs John 3:16?
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I remember in my early searching days, one sunday I waited across the street from a Jewish church, I waited for two hours, but no one showed up; I saw people showing up at this other church, so I went their, a greek orthedock or something like that, but they gave me some kind of bread, and as I ate some, some of that bread fell to the ground, they told me not to let the bread fall to the ground. That was trippe, but not as trippe to find out that Jewish churches meet on Saturdays. It seems that the attitudes of some might have caused them trouble?
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Sorry for my lack of knowledge on holy communion, I hope you don't mind if I ask TrustAndObey for some insight. I remember reading about people getting sick and death coming early to some, could this be from not having a worthy heart? I mean, I have seen people get born again by going up to the alter, and I kept seeing some of the same people going up to the alter to get born again over and over again, could that have been going on, people committing themselves to the covenant over and over again?
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I didn't have to go through the eye of the hurricane, it being my first hurricane, nothing special about me, i'm just a dumb kid speaking in tongues. Just another snow story being told, sure my Charlie the hurricane story should get the snowballs. Lets speak in tongues for the people in the path of Earl, maybe our Father will blow Earl the hurricane out to sea.
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I sitting here watching this Earl hurricane coming the east coast way, reminds me of a VeePee snow story, I found myself living in Florida (thats other VeePee'er) and here comes hurricane Charlie that is coming right at me, but Charlie made a turn that no one saw coming and went through Datona, instead of St. Augustine. Them hurricanes are a trip, what a trippe year it was, four or five hurricanes made their marks on Florida. I feel for the people in Earls path, its a scary thing having one them bad boys making its way towards you.
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in my humble opinion, that is cool, thanks Steve; my research is a little out their, thanks buddy, you sure have be helpful, thanks for the learning.
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I was wondering, what does IMHO mean? I learned of some words, that the meaning of those words were deliberately changed, I changed them back to what they used to mean, that is what gets me into alarming side effects. TrustAndObey, I remember one day you pointed out something to me, I made the corrections, thanks for your pointing things out for me, too cool, thanks buddy.
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Thanks for helping me with that reputation thing, it is a drag to get labeled, the way seemed to have a way of labeling people. If I fall on my face, than it is my doing, but to be labeled, I got flash backs of being in the way again. Thanks Sunesis, hope your doing well.
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One day in doing some research, I stumbled across that mansions in John 14:2, should be abiding places. These abiding places will be in the north, Yahweh's throne is in the north, we that get gathered up at the gathering together, we will have to stay somewhere, until the new heaven and new earth is in place, our real home will be in the new Jerusalem. Has anyone done any research on this abiding place in John 14:2?
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I learning that the life in John 10:10, in which Yeshua was to have in John 5:26 is a noun; but why is that life taught as a verb? Can a verb be a noun?
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Martindale was about laws of believing, chasing devils spirits, controlling people to justify his way of life, it takes a lot of thought to be a me me, its about me attitude; no wonder Martindale flopped as a dancer?
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From Heaven Above to Earth I Come
teachmevp replied to year2027's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
Hi Roy, I feel a little scared to ask you what the Luther believed, what does his believing mean to you buddy? I have way to many knit picking things on this time period in world history, I would be wrong to knit pick with you, but what did the Luther believe to you? -
Those Jaws Harp can jack you up quick, I get my lips caught every now and then, crazy what I put myself through to play a Jaws Harp, but I got this sound. That does hurt, hitting your tooth with one of them Jaws Harps, I play a five dollor auto jaws harp, I only get 15 to 20 songs out of one, before I get a stress crack and got to throw it away. When I first started, I would play the 8 track tapes I had of Blackfoot, Mountain, Montrose, and Bob and his silver bullet band, I knew if I could play with these guys, I could take that sound to other bands. I play that jaws harp where no one would dare to play, like Rush, if you think about what your playing, their is the danger zone of hitting your tooth or clipping your lips, but if you play to the band without thinking, a jaws harp does sound mean in the song Working Man that Rush plays and not get hurt at all playing that song. Maybe it is like that with the word, just do it without thinking?
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Paul After Jerusalem Arrest
teachmevp replied to Broken Arrow's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
That is cool stuff about Paul in Rome, so it is like the sower and the seed on that Asia thing, some seed fell here or there? It does seem like Paul was saying something different, I guess it just seemed to make sense at the time, that call thing, trippe stuff. -
Thanks buddy, but to get into the spin of it all, that would be unnecessary knit picking on my part, but can I go the other way with this; where did the dudes in Rome get those books, that the others didn't use? Thanks for helping understand, I am not the sharpest crayon, in the box.
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Paul After Jerusalem Arrest
teachmevp replied to Broken Arrow's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
That is so crazy Paul made that call behind bars, maybe that is way Yahweh didn't want Paul to go Jerusalem, who would liston to a call, like the one Paul made, being behind bars, just a thought, thanks. -
Hi Roy, this is a off the wall question, it seems that the Germans, Luther and the rebels of their time, didn't like what the dudes in Rome taught; so the Germans rebels rewrote what the dudes in Rome had, but forgot to add some books?
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You have no idea how much you have help with that noun and verb of life, thanks so much; I think that a adverb colors the verb or something like that? That -5 is about a bad reputation, the thought was, could doing research have a alarming side effect of geting one a bad reputation, it was just a thought to the thought of alarming side effects. The butterfly kisses, I heard in a song, it is a prayer for a great kid, my thought was, maybe a mother might see their kid playing in the yard, and seeing a butterfly flying around her kid, the mother might remember their was a prayer for Jacob. Last in line is from a song, I forgot the dudes name, but he die not to long ago, Dio or something like that. Thanks Ham for that Yes, Yes is one hard band to play the Jaws Harp too; my boss is going to help me record somehow, I'll try to get a Yes song in their for ya.
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With my name being teachmevp, I get to talk to my name, whats up this vp, see what these people are teachingme about you vp, whats up with that vp? Or, why did you not teachme that vp, a con ah? So I thought about my name, thinking, whats up this snow story vp, because of your con vp, no one can tell their snow story? How many other kinda snow stories are their of the way, where a person can face being discredited, "Thats a VeePee snow story"? Did the way make up discredit storys, like in that movie, "Enemy of the State" in that movie they set out to discredit that guy, before he came out with the tape, so if he came out with that tape, no one would believe a word he said; did the way think that way, in a way in their fish stories?