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I wonder, the 24 elders in heaven, they wear a gold crown; Yeshua the Messiah, who sets on the right hand of Yahweh, also wears a gold crown; are the 24 elders a part of Logos too? Maybe that is why Yahweh had John write Revelations last, surly the Greeks knew about them their 24 elders, how far forward to you Logos buffs take Logos, to the New Jerusalem?

Maybe that is what John 4;23 is saying, in new nature; how do we grow our new nature that has been planted within our old nature, that is a struggle we each struggle with? The meaning of Logos has never been planted in our old nature, nor did the second Adam offer his blood in heaven itself, for the meaning of Logos? Don't forget the Mosaic Covenant is going on in the storyline of the first five chapters of John?

That inner thing is a day in and a day out struggle, but we struggle away? I think see what your saying, how does ones light shine, within the darkness of ones old nature?

I had PFAL, for what that is worth?

What is the life in the light?

Yahweh’s wisdom of the twelve constellations, in which three constellations are assigned to each one of the twelve constellations, thirty-six constellations, plus the twelve constellations, make forty-eight? Yahweh’s wisdom to tell a story before Satan’s eyes, of someone to come with the stars of these forty-eight constellations? Virgo and it’s three constellations, Coma, Centaurus, and Bootes; Libra and it’s three constellations, Crux, Lupus, and Corona; Scorpio and it’s three constellations, Serpens, Ophiuchus, and Hercules, check out Yahweh’s wisdom put forth in the story of these stars, before it even happened? So why then did the Greeks change Libra from the Alter, to a set of scales or something like that? Why should we trust the Greeks Logos, why did they change the meaning of Libra? I thought the Claws of Scorpio are trying to get the Alter, the story of these stars were known before the Greeks came around? After all, look at what Lucifer did in the garden, when the earth was in the first heaven, where was Logos on that day, when Lucifer pulled his stunt in that garden, was Yahweh’s Logos hurt?

I challenge this Logos, this Logos meaning does not belong in our Father’s word; this Logos meaning has been added! The storyline of the first five chapters of John is during the Mosaic Covenant, no way, one is going to reason Logos into the law? I see we have a lot of Logos fans, please don’t let me offend anyone, I see why VeePee hung on to a teaching of Logos, the money? Their are a lot of Logos teachers out their, but not one of them will come before the GreaseSpot Cafe with their reasonings, like you see these reasonings? This is the only honest thing to do, come before the GreaseSpot Cafe, present one’s reasonings, if their flawed, one will correct their reasonings before the Cafe? Thanks to the reasonings of the people of the GreaseSpot Cafe, it can be established, because no one has unestablished this, that we start reading the first five chapters of John, after Matthews 4:11. It’s been established, because no one has unestablished this, that John 1:1-1:5 is showing us the wisdom of Yahweh, the wisdom of what Yahweh has accomplished in allowing Satan to tempt Yeshua, wasn’t Satan allowed to tempt Adam; could it be that is why the tree of knowledge of good and evil was also in that garden? What if Adam and Eve had kids, would their kids get to eat off the tree of life, just seems that Satan had a sense of urgency, when he was talking to Eve? The crazy thing about these two men, Adam and Yeshua, that they both had pure blood, Yeshua was truly, the second Adam. Look at the wisdom of Yahweh, how Yahweh allowed the second Adam to go through all of that, 40 days and 40 nights, those six temptations of Satan; the second Adam didn’t get tricked. Had the first Adam said to Eve, no, their kids might have gotten to eat from the tree of life; but the people of this earth got robbed from what that tree of life does? Your Logos vs. The Second Adam

Didn't them Greek dudes change that constellation Libra, which was anciently the Alter, to a set of scales?

The Tree of life couldn't have been on the earth in the first heaven, that tree would have given Lucifer a sense of urgency, the reasons Lucifer did what he did, were Lucifer's reasonings; Lucifer wanted to be more then the anointed cherub that covers in the first heaven. Satan in the garden on the earth in the second heaven, I wonder if Satan had a sense of urgency because of that Tree of life, what if Adam and Eve had kids with that tree still on the earth? It kinda seems that Yahweh was fair with Satan by putting that Tree of knowledge of good and evil in that garden by the Tree of life, if Satan could get them to eat off that tree, before them two had kids, that would be fair? It is cool how Yahweh's wisdom is at play here, like in John 1:1; Yahweh knew what Lucifer was going to do? Genesis 3:15 can be reasoned into John 1:1, Yahweh's wisdom is something else, we have a shot at getting that noun of that life; not VeePee's verb of that life, of which was abundant for him?

VeePee use a noun in John 10:10, but he used it as a verb; VeePee tricked people with road signs and guild posts, with the verb of abundant life, it was abundant for him? In John 1:4 is this noun of the life I have been sharing, the same noun of life in John 10:10. Within the storyline of these two contexts of the storyline, can I reason this, their are only two ways to get that life within the storyline? One way was the Tree of life, but that was in the garden on the earth in the second heaven, I wonder if their was a Tree of life in the garden on the earth in first heaven? But we know the story of what happened their; the second way to get that life, is the way a man did it, here in the storyline of these two contexts of the storyline; John 5:26 Yeshua to was to have life in himself, Yeshua did not have that noun of that life within the storyline of these two contexts of the storyline, Yeshua was to have it? We know Yeshua did get that noun of that life, and we can get that noun of that life too, thanks cman, I tried to help that noun out the best I could, I guess?

VeePee put on robes, and got the dough, and all that came along with money? I didn't really know Walter, did he do that "also" work in a writing? Then Martindale, and the last whisper of VeePee before he died, in the ear of that dude who lives on a lake in Main, the money rolled on, but that dancing thing kinda bit the dust?

I'm not the sharpest crayon in the box, it would be cool to take away the cane from the Way, they became blind?

I never twisted a Integrals, or know what one is, but what is a nasty Integrals?

I am clueless to whatever blood flowing through me, but what matters is I am not under that curse of the law that came through Isaac? Who be me, I am a twister of a Rubik's revenge, I can twist that cube in shape once or twice every 25 attempts, I am one who keeps twisting at things, just keep twisting on?

Sorry buddy, I was trying to show that Gentile thing, being a Gentile mutt, I'm not of that thing through Isaac.

I'm a mutt, a little of this, a little of that; it's kinda cool, a mutt has got a shot at what came about through Isaac? I'm not of that seed that came through Isaac, but us mutt's got a shot at being joint heirs with the seed that came through Isaac? But what do us nuts know, you know?

No one ever considered to take Logos out and replace it with wisdom? No one ever considered to start reading John after the six temptations in the storyline? No one ever considered that life in John 10:10, is a noun, not a verb? No one ever considered keeping the first five verse of John, and reasoning them with what happen in the garden on the earth in the second heaven? No one ever considered talking about the garden on the earth in the first heaven, and taking a look at what Lucifer truly did? But I truly think, I have a solid reasoning going on here, we are arguing over nothing, the trinity is only going backwards, lets go forward? cman, I forgot, because of your advice, I started that Christine Hayes thread. That stuff is over my head, but I see it, just throw it out their, thanks buddy.

Thanks socks, i'm all about the Pauline messages, I am a Gentile, but a Gentile not doing what Paul is talking about. I know now, not to take the kindness of Yahweh lightly,to forget my craziness as I grew, but it is in the struggles of our life's we grow with our Father, but we have a high priest, a perfect high priest for us, as Paul tells us, Yeshua the Messiah. If I get gathered up, it will be by the skin of teeth, it is hard to run that race? A good friend of had this stock car, he took it the track, he was like 20 laps behind everybody, some guy was hacking on him, my friend said, at least I was in their, I always remembered that saying. What is important to me, is if I am wrong with this stuff I have been stumbling across, the people of the Cafe, will show me where I am missing the boat? I'm using one page of what VeePee ripped off, if VeePee did all that studying, I know he worked the rest of that Appendix 101 in Bullinger, but VeePee went for that robe and the dough, and used that 101 a different way, and declared it, by writing books? Martindale should not have call people greasespots, one of them greasespots built a Cafe, only a pure heart would come before the Cafe with one's reasoning, it is the honst thing to do? Nobody pi$$'s on the back of a greasespot, and tell's them it is raining? So I come before the greatest researchers of the word, on the face of this earth, the heart of the Cafe, where the greasespots hangout. Socks, because of your involvement, I was able to start this thread, you show me the answer to something I was trying to figure for over 30 years, thanks, hope you get well.

I see you what to put back John 1:6-1:14 into the storyline cman, I understand your lack of understanding of the end of the storyline of the gospels and the first chapter of Acts? I went forward with what I learned in PFAL, do you really what me to go backwards, and put the meaning of Logos back into my Fathers word, no, I'm not as dumb as I look?

I was trying to show the storyline of John, sure we know the ending, but when we read John from the beginning, the storyline is under the Mosaic Covenant, what Yeshua accomplished for us all, is at ending of the end of the storyline. No traditions of men, no bondage, but we should not treat the blood of Yeshua the Messiah as ordinary blood in are liberties, being free from the law?

I'm also trying to show how the new testament was put into the old testament, their is no way, what Christine Hayes teaches is all I know about the old testament? So I'm trying to show how John is part of storyline, but something was added that got in the way of the storyline of John, so I tried my best to take out what was added?

Hi socks, my grammatical sense, euphemisms, the expressions, you are right their, that stuff is way over my head. In high school, I learned one thing really good, typing; I don't know why typing came so easy, but it was cool banging on them keys; but spelling and all that english stuff, that went right over my head. I graduated when I was 21, I tried to go to a real high school, no, that was way over my head; but in Cheyenne their was this alternate high school like thing. I know the word I was to say instead of alternate, but I can't even spell that word close enough for the spell checker to give me the spelling, but the party was on in them days socks, it was on. I went to PFAL on mushrooms, I was sitting on a couch we my roommate came home and said, I got a ride from this hot bible teaching chick, she teaches in her home. I said, let's go chech out the hot bible chick. So David Skovel the wow that year shows up at the door, pot smoke porring out the door, and we were off, got to the house, their was a hot bible teaching chick their. Now that woman put a eye lock on me, I had no fear of Yahweh, I had no fear of this world, I had better start fearing that woman, right there and right now! 11th corp, I don't know how to spell her name but I will try, Leslie ownens, she married this ownens dude? We sat down to pray, and this Suzan she went 13th coro, started to speak in tongues, I looked up, Leslie saw me looking up, and then at her. That is why I started going to twig, that tongue, I did that one time when I was a little kid, and I stopped because I thought I was cussing God out in another language. Leslie came to my house one night before I took PFAL, and lead me in tongues; but that class was like typing, I ate that stuff up. I truly was a hear, but my doer, was way out of whack. Socks, the only thing I have to compare how I ate that class up, is your gaiter, was it work, or did you eat that gaiter up, when you first picked up your gaiter? Socks, the first time I took PFAL, we got a smoke break during session 5, I felt their was something wrong, like your gaiter going out of tune, you feel something is wrong, but it took me over 30 years to stubble across the answers to what I felt that day, you just reach out and tune your feeling something wrong. I am just throwing all this crazy heart learning out their socks, no band wagon, nothing for sell; but you are trinity; I am just trying to pull you out of that. Can you let that untuned gaiter go, at lease you are going to try to tune that gaiter? I don't look at God, as a God, I have a Father, and not long ago, I learned his name is Yahweh, from Christine Hayes; but I have crazy heart, I chase things. VeePee, if it snows I will teach, not me, that is important Pops. I just stubble and bumble across learning, like stubbing across a link one night on gaiters or something, and I saw your name, how cool socks plays the gaiter, I bet you are a lead gaiter, I am a lead Jaws Harp player, a Jaws Harp depends on the band, only if the band will let me in, like Sweet Home Alabama, no lead Jaws Harp; but Gypsy Queen by April Wine, yes, one mean lead can be played. You are the band socks, mean lead gaiter, I have hung on Randy Rhode's stage monitor, six day camp out in Denver, in 0 to -10 weather; but one thing about Randy Rhode, his foot work, I bet you have foot work socks? I wish I had foot work on my Jaws Harp, but I live week to week from my job, I have been a line cook for over 30 years, one thing about a line cook, your never without a job. I have crazier snow stories then VeePee has, his snow story were about the money; my snow stories were for me, my sister does call me her nutty brother for nothing. I have no foot work, I know the people of the GreaseSpot Cafe knew these words, and how it should be strung together, the best crazy heart on the face of the earth in the Cafe, so I never worried about my foot work; but socks I bet you got a mean bunch of bottons under your foot, you control your lead; but I bet your not just a lead, you go beyond, you learn something and take it beyond. Socks please don't play cover songs like the trinity, go beyond with what VeePee ripped off, and take it beyond, Christine Hayes did, mind bending what is coming out of that woman's mouth? I am not trying to Pi$$ on anybody's back, and telling them, it is raining, I am just stumbling and bumbling alone on this.

What about the Day of Yahweh, will Yahweh have forgiveness for the Gentiles on this earth? Should we have forgiveness for the cons, will Yahweh have forgiveness for them in the Day of Yahweh, even if they don't get that number? Why should the cons have the best of both ages? It's like that Pink Floyd song "Dogs" from that Animals 8 track, skyrider has a good point with 2 Peter, the dogs are going down?

For all those that are caught up in this compassion for this world, will you be mad at Yahweh, when you find yourself in the Day of Yahweh? For all those that are caught up in this love for the people wrapped up in this world, will you be mad at Yahweh, when you find yourself in the Day of Yahweh? Are you sure about your truth? Not one man or woman on the face of this earth, can out reason, the reasonings put forth on this thread? Oops, your worldly reasonings of these man made religions that you hold so dear, are going to get you into the Day of Yahweh, don't be mad at Yahweh, are you sure about your truth? The gathering together is a coming, don't get mad at Yahweh, when you find yourself in the Day of Yahweh, because you have a worldly point of view, and a worldly opinion of Yahweh? Do not get fooled, your opinion will not be worth a hill of beans, when Yahweh's wrath comes down on you, in the Day of Yahweh?

The gathering together is a coming, don't get fooled? Religions are man made opinions of Yahweh, oh my!