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Congratulations on your sobriety, reiklady. And of course congrats on the upcoming wedding.

Cute.. :)--> I hope you don't me adding another one. Billy Graham is in the woods and he sees a bear who starts running after him. Billy Graham runs as fast as he can through the woods praying 'Please make this bear a christian Lord, just please make this bear a christian'. As he is running he trips over a log and the bear catches up to him leans over and says, 'Father, I thank you for this food....'

There were times that I wanted to go back. I missed all the 'friends' and being 'busy' all the time. But then I remember that it was with rose colored glasses that I had all these 'friends' and were 'busy' doing twi's work. The rose colored glasses might be fine while young. But reality is so much better. It may take some work to have the real friends that won't turn on you if you leave your religion. But once you find out how to do it the rose colored glasses are never coming back on because reality is so much better. Maybe thats why some go back. They have a hard time excepting the hard work and reality of the real life.

You know whats weird is that if they would cut down, get out of the followers lives so much. Stop harrassing ex-followers....they might see growth again. Thank goodness they aren't that smart...

Can you see her having a fit? Stomping, kicking, face red. I can just see it. Mr Linder, are you sure you want to see that happen? I agree they do look happy. Its also a better website than twi's.

LMAO Chef you are ssssooo funny.. :o--> :o--> :o--> :o--> But it is true. You sound like a good man. A lot of men out there just care about getting their needs met. When they are done thats it. Maybe thats why women in the fifties are leaving.

Johniam, I think it was just that more people's rose colored glasses were coming off is all. It was there from the beginning if one looked hard enough.

I don't know anyone that went back but know a couple of people that should have...

LOL coolwaters, I have a feeling that was because we were young. But if it makes you feel better then the answer is yes... ;)-->

Personally, I love caffeine.

What is DHEA, Bramble?

Coolwaters, I totally agree with you. That is the fun thing about getting older. The sagging thing is part of life. Why not have fun with it? MJ I agree with you. The first time I was married I think it was more of a caretaker sort of thing. The guy had lots of problems and I guess I thought I could take care of him. He had more problems than I could take. He was taking me down the drain with him. I had to ask myself if the kids and I were better with him or without him. It scared me to think we were better without him but years later I know we are. We haven't seen nor heard from him for three years. The kids have a father figure in their lives and he loves them. I think that sometimes a spouse gets so dependant on the other that they forget that that person has needs too. They need to enjoy life and not feel that there is something wrapped around their necks.

OMG!!!!!!!!! Coolwaters. I do have to wipe the screen after that one!!!!! LOLOLOLOLOL

My dearest excie....a fun one though, yes?

Littlehawk I'm one of those sex craved women but I'm already taken. I have a sex craved man. There are women out there :P--> The part about the men not being into sex as much came from a thread about how non important sex was with a man when they get older. It seemed a lot of men at that time agreed with it.

I do agree with you, gc in some cases this is true. But what about the ones that thought their marriages were ok and then out of the blue just say they want out?

Sorry men.. :(-->

Plus, I think men in their fifties aren't into sex as much. Oh they say they are but when it comes down to it..... :o--> Isn't it that women are in their prime at the age of fourty or fifty where men are in their prime in their twenties? Makes want to go out and get a young man... --> Just kidding on getting a younger man...hehe

I think you may be right, wacky. Most of the women I know that are going through this have husbands that just are not outgoing where the women are. I don't know if the men were outgoing when they first met. Maybe they feel that life is too boring with these kind of men. And want a better life.

Belle, I read the part of the first chapter and I don't think they were or are related in any way to twi. When I first looked at the site it did remind me of twi because of the agape thing. But surprisingly a lot of religions do use it. I did like how he writes. Thanks for sharing it.

I remember my mother sharing with me when she was in her fifties how sometimes it seemed that she had a brother instead of a husband. Our relationship with our husbands constantly change. Sometimes it makes it and sometimes not.

Well of course, Mr. Ham. :P--> I found it interesting because in the space of about two weeks several friends of mine shared with me that they are divorcing. To me it seemed like an epidemic or something.

so very true, smurfette!!! What does it say in the king james? I don't have a king james handy but it would be interesting to see the difference.

Jim in what you read did it say why this is happening? And its rather weird to me that its more women than men nowadays that go through this.

It just puzzles me. I was wondering if it was something like changes men go through and buy a sports car to feel young again.