soul searcher

So some of you Way folks used to drink and party and stuff? I know it went on but somehow I can't picture it. Partying, to me, was always the polar opposite of leading a "good Christian life". I remember being surprised when my ex-Way friend drank and smoked with me many years ago. She said that being born again didn't mean you couldn't indulge in substances. I thought that was pretty cool -- I had always thought of born again Christians as "clean-living", so to speak.

Alrighty, then. You're hired. (just kidding -- what you just wrote sounds like the career objective blurb that everyone puts at the top of their resume) Of course, I don't think you're stupid at all. Thanks for sharing. :)

That's quite a devastating summation. The two leaders you just described (and perhaps the rest of the leadership) sound like sick individuals, but it seems to me that most of the members were sane -- just maybe misled. (I'm only going by the individuals I've gotten to know in this forum, all of whom seem like very smart people.)

LOL That was good. Love that movie. I didn't want to make light of this, but since you already did... Remember John Belushi in the restaurant scene in "The Blues Brothers"? ([evil voice]: How much for the little girls?)

Good point. Although...I always thought the Branch Davidian cult was downright loony.

Um, wut? "Hand over her teenage daughters." Hmm...what would that have entailed?

Crocodile Rock "Since you're gone I've been lost without a trace"

Waysider, that was awesome! I never saw that. Nice find. I could write a short essay about that song but I'll keep it to one quick anectodte... In the four or five times I've seen SD since they started touring again in 1995 they've shown a marked aversion for their more pop-oriented songs such as "Dirty Work" and "Reeling". The couple of times they performed Reelin they played jazzed-up arrangements, which I hated. SD, to my consternation, never play the same arrangements of their songs live as they do on record. And the touring guitarist -- whoever it might be -- rarely, if ever, quotes lines from the original solos heard on the record (which, to me, have already become part of the song, part of the hook. In fact, many solos on SD songs, whether they be guitar, horn, or keyboard solos are often composed. I heard that Phil Wood's amazing sax solo on Doctor Wu was written and handed to him by Becker & Fagen, though I don't know if that's true.) Anyway, I saw them last summer. This time it was "Internet Request Night" so the entire set was comprised of fan favorites -- no solo stuff, no new stuff, nothing past Aja. They did all hits: Dirty Work, Rikki, Peg, Josie, etc. And...(drum roll)...they did a note-for-note rendition of Reelin in the Years. Same solo, same everything. Totally awesome! I know it must have killed them to have to sit and play all of those songs the way they did. But, hey, that's why they get paid.

Me neither. I noticed that a while ago.

Interesting question. I can tell you that circa 1983 at least one young woman who sought God's word joined TWI's ranks. She was recruited by a(nother) (very attractive) co-worker who was already in. She told me at the time that she was born again. But I don't recall if she was born again before she took the PFAL class or during it.

It only took three tries! "Your everlasting summer you can see it fading fast"

Reflections of My Life?

United We Stand?

What a moron. He should be ashamed of himself. Here's a story from today's New York Times. I guess he doesn't read it.

Is it by the Hollies? Air That I Breathe? (was that the Hollies?) I'm just guessing.

:blink: hnh? Armed security at a church? Nice. Very nice.

"Way Woods"...the name has a strange, eerie feel to it. In the pines, in the pines Where the sun never shines -- Leadbelly

Fly-overs for most arial shots are done during either before the spring bloom or after the autumn leaves fall so that foliage from the trees doesn't obscure everything. (I can tell from the satellite shots of my own house that they were taken during the winter. Is it possible that that's the case here?

"All I Have to Do is Dream" and "Cathy's Clown". The unbelievable irony of the juxtaposition of these two songs can only be apparent to me and one other person... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKn6h2x5IcY

Nice one. You go.

"I can make you mine, taste your lips of wine"

That song just blows me away, and it's taken on new meaning for me in recent months... The references to piasters, being "strung out", and Cuban gentlemen sleeping all day would seem to indicate that "Doctor Wu" is the story of one man's addiction to some opiate, possibly heroin. However I've started to interpret the song literally as a song about an actual woman. When I think think of it that way, it captures (in a strange but perfect way) the story of my recent relationship with a certain woman. She came back into my life at a time when I was vulnerable. I got drawn in and I've haven't been able to get out. For months and months we "sang a stupid song". We both knew it was true, yet we knew it wasn't real. The way the song fades with "Are you with me/Can you hear me, Doctor?" tells how I am still stuck in a dream, addicted to her, and oblivious to the reality. She is lovely, yes she's sly And you're and ordinary guy Yep, she got to me in a big way. I was no match for her. The fact that I'm weak and stupid only made matters worse. Whatever...life goes on.

So who goes?

Thanks Way. For my part I can tell you that in none of the places where my ex WF lived -- and she lived in quite a few places over her 25+ years there (she was wow, Way Corp, worked at headquarters, etc.) was any of this wife-swapping or 3some stuff happening with any regularity. She was aware of the stories about VPW and LCM's affairs and a couple of other incidences of adultery but nothing out of the ordinary -- or at least nothing you wouldn't see in many communities. I think she would would have left the ministry a long time ago rather than tolerate that.