soul searcher

I have to say that I think he's an excellent teacher and that he, more than anyone else, is responsible for my interest in the bible. I've never met him but I've been exposed to his style on a CES class my friend sent me and on his STF videos. Note that I did not request that my friend send me this class but she wanted me to listen to it. (Truth be told, I came thisclose to dumping it in the garbage before I even listened to it but that's another story). But when I finally did listen to it, gosh darn it if I didn't find it extremely interesting! I listened to the whole thing and loved it. I found the presntation he did (together with his sister, Susan) to be first rate. While I was listening to that class last summer and for sometime after that I believed almost all of it and the parts I didn't fully believe (or understand) somehow seemed plausible. And then I found this web site. So anyway that class got me excited about the bible, even if I don't believe much of it anymore.

Pat Robertson on the Haiti earthquake.

hee-hee

That is just so f*cked up and ridiculous...I don't even know what to say. Did someone, anyone, get up or walk out or challenge her in anyway? Never mind. I know the answer.

I don't think anybody's gonna get this one. It's a Quentin Tanrantino film called Jackie Brown... FREE POST!

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Hi WAI. Your situation sounds very similar to someone I know, but different. She left TWI last year in part because of the various abuses that took place but is now fully engaged in a Way-offshoot ministry and still clings to all of the doctrine (all of it: the law of believing, SIT, four crucified, six denials, etc.) While it is not of primary concern to me, I would like to her "shake off" all that doctrine, rethink her beliefs and start again with a new ministry. I probably wouldn't be feeling this way if I hadn't come across this forum late last year (I am neither an ex-TIWer nor a bible scholar). Up until I read this forum I was swallowing the Kool Aid via some CES/CFFM classes she had sent me. I've sent her various threads from this forum but she's not receptive to them. I think that part of her problem is that she is physically removed from her friends and family from the old days. (She lives in the midwest and we're all from NY.) There's nobody around to grab her by the shoulders and say, "Wake up, girl!" I lost her to TWI long time ago. And even though I'll never have her back I would love to see her reject all that doctrine and start anew.

You either know this one or you don't: "AK-47. The very best there is. When you absolutely, positively got to kill every mof*cker in the room, accept no substitutes."

One of the more distasteful changes I noticed in my friend was this condemnation of homosexuals. She wasn't like that when she left. I told her that she's drinking a toxic Kool Aid and she need to "regurgitate it." But she says her feelings are supported by the bible. [sigh] It's so disappointing -- but I use it as psychological tool when I have to convince myself that I don't love her anymore.

They tried it here in the 1970s but they couldn't get away with it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_Trees_School_District_v._Pico

Sounds like hate, bigotry, prejudice, homophobia...etc.

A League of Their Own

I thought W.O.W. stood for "Way Over the World". Or did it change?

Sounds like somebody I know. She joined the Way because the Wow people who recruited her "had something", and she "wanted what they had." (Her words.) My mother beleives she's doing the "right" thing by letting my underemployed heroin addict brother live in her house. I told her the right thing to do would be to kick his lazy azz out on the street.

Patriot Games If not, I need another clue.

Human's got it.

(Dedicated to geisha and Mary Tyler Moore)

¡Si me quedo es DOBLE!

That's pretty good -- the word cathartic also means purging of the bowels.

Yep, an emotional release; or a purging of emotions.

cathartic

Yeah...I could possibly be in that category. I don't know. Not right now anyway.

Dude, I'm happy to hear that, man. Rock on.

It wasn't the vulnerability to spiritual charlatans that I was wondering about. I guess my thinking is that people can't control events around them but they can control their reaction to those events. And I always figured that being born again, if nothing else, puts you at peace with the world. I have known people who had hard lives and then were born again and found peace through God. But I've never (personally) known anyone who was born again and then turned to drugs. Does that make sense at all?

♫ So, come on and let me knooo-ooo-ooow! ♫ I don't mind you sticking around but your posts bore me to tears. Sorry.