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Why the Intermediate and Advanced Classes Suck
OldSkool replied to Nathan_Jr's topic in About The Way
And that's the cool thing with tossing the idea that we know that we know that we know. The only thing for sure I know is that I don't know very much at all about a great many topics. However, I am enjoying the adventure of finding out. I dosed acid during my teenage years up until a bad trip when I was 18. Haven't touched the stuff since. I doubt he saw pink elephants unless he was going through DTs from his Drambuie. I used to dose LSD heavily and never hallucinated like he say he did at all. I saw walls breathing, trees getting distorted, what appeared to be ants crawling around. Most of my halloucinations were natural occurences chemicall distorted in my perceptions. That's not to say that other people didn't just outright hallucinate stuff that was out of this world. Depending on folks body chemistry it's plausible and possible. I HIGHLY doubt VPW knew anything first hand and likely quoted second hand experiences in an authoritative manner. Now - what I did hallucinate on was mushrooms. Last time I did mushrooms I literally saw a light show on an exposed brick wall in my bedroom. Kinda like a fireworks show, spinnig pinwheel, multi-colored lights - other patterns too...it was very vivid and the experince is fresh in my mind to this day. -
Why the Intermediate and Advanced Classes Suck
OldSkool replied to Nathan_Jr's topic in About The Way
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Why the Intermediate and Advanced Classes Suck
OldSkool replied to Nathan_Jr's topic in About The Way
I dealt with the worst self-condemnation based on this crap. I was into the occult - voodoo/santeria/etc before my time in TWI. I seriously contemplated suicide my first few months "in da werd". I eventually got over it but it was some serious mental anguish that came with the way TWI teaches this stuff. Obviously, the serpent has a seed per Genesis 3:15, but I am confident that in no way did vic/twi understand anything about it. Honestly, I can't say I understand exactly what Genesis 3:15 is all about, except we see it play out in the Gospels with Jesus and the Pharisees, et. al. Jesus did identify them as being of their father the devil, but that's about all I really understand. Is it a matter of confessing satan as lord? On face value, I HIGHLY doubt it. Is being a child of the devil like Elymas in acts something a person is naturally born into based on luciferian bloodlines? I have no clue. That there are luciferian bloodlines I am absolutely sure because the person that tutored me in the occult was from such a family. Worshipping lucifer was their religion and was documented in their family all the way back to the Scotland dating back several hundred years at least. So yes, after growing up southern baptist I went full bore into the occult. I was enticed by a very skillful handler. -
I do wanna know why John the Baptist is a wierdo.
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Yeah, kinda sucks. Im trying to get him out that box and he wants me to take PFLAP....which, yeah,, will probably happen when it rains penguins.
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Gotcha. I need to go read that one again...been a long time...or at least peruse it...not sure I can stomach the propaganda again.
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Really good point.
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You teach yoga? You sure stretch a lot of concepts to match what u wanna say. Hopefully u don't stretch coffee though. This sounds like star wars when Lucas messed up and had Obi Wan tell young Skywalker that Darth Vader murdered his father only to say a couple movies later that was true fr a certain point of view.
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He finds one bible out of a hundred that matches his speculation so now lamsa is the authority. Typical wierwille methodology....goes like this..."I think so and so means such and such...see lamsa says it this way...blah...and bam..cherry picked Bible/verse/faulty intrepretation to suit said speculation. Lamsa is not a trustworthy source. Kinda like thinking a colander is suitable to hold water
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Well...hope they chime in.
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Really good points. Shows what some of these cults have in common. I'm wouldn't be the least bit surprised If wierwille stole fr jw too.
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Early on I was so zealous of position. Then I was assigned to the cabinet. Teaching a sts was one of the worst experiences cause it was micro managed down to every word. I had similar aspirations though. Now I realize my walk as a Christian is very personal and not subject to micro management by dunderheads.
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No...but now that u mention it...mystic cheese...yeah...I feel guided now...lmao
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I prefer ranch over Bleu cheese with my word salad.
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Ahh...that was pre-Oldskool...thanks!!
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Excuse my ignorance here, who was Johnny Townsend?
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I had the same exact experience only totally different....
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Ok....I dang near choked on my own tongue laughing at this one.
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Complete speculation. History does not support you here, buddy. How would any of the first century apostolic authors know which books would be where when some of them hadn't been written by the time some of the apostles died? Did Paul know by revelation to tell Timothy to add Revelation to the end of the list when it was written well after Paul's death? Make it make sense. You have these postulates but instead of rejecting the theory when it's proven incorrect you try and bend everything else to match your theory. That is just like Wierwille - epiluo...letting the dogs run loose on the game...thoughts flying everywhere trying to make fantasy fit with reality. I don't discount the Lord's hand on scripture, nor do I doubt he worked in people like Jerome, Erasmus, Wyclyffe, Tyndale, etc to compile the books that comprise our Bible. I completely reject your theories simply because they are just speculation and I can speculate that it happened some other way. History does not support your view.
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The heck you testing now, a new spell checker?
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I been spelling Lamsa as Llamsa for years....been wrong all along.
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Not really...mostly Mike trolling everyone who would respond...same ole same ole really...it's worth sifting through...if nothing else for comedic value. There is some really good information throughout though....it's just kinda few and far between.
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Yes...with all things wierwilian it makes a GIANT contradiction. John 1:14 is pretty clear, except, they redefine "the Word" to mean whatever is convenient at the time...written word, spoken word, word in the stars, word to your moms, word from the directors being the most important words of way life...etc...lo shonta...Thus people that believe this craziness, and I used to be one, are stuck trying to make it all fit with actual reality. So they tie the word spiritual onto it. Anywho.
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But...but...(lo shonta)...if Jesus is the Word made flesh and PFLAP is God breathed wouldn't Jesus carrying the new version of PFLAP be kinda like the Word carrying the Word?
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