OldSkool

Ahh...this one's easy...it should say "Apparently, Loy wasw ONLY ABLE to NOT bo beyond what he was taught by victor paul wierwille..." ....see fits like a .....

Oh...very punny....

Leopards have spots too. Similar animals though except cheetahs are more social amongst themselves and run faster.

They don't have much to sell at this point. Camp Gunnison, which is a solid investment that come with water rights on the Gunnison river is a huge asset that even the current directors at TWI aren't stupid enough to liquidate. After that it's HQ. They already lease out their fields for local farmers to work hay, corn or soybeans. Otherwise, there's not much left to liquadate. HQ property is mostly garbage because it was all built around the annnual rock of ages and literally on a shoestring budget. The exception being the auditorium which is a VERY nice building inside and out. The OSC is a glorified ROA warehouse. Ermal Owens Building is a comlete POS as is the so called Biblical Research Center. Heck, I was working in the BRC and saw blocks that had been scabbed together to make studs when it was built because appearantly they ran out. So the money problems could be real, if that indeed is what it's all about. Or maybe the current group of directors is feeling some type of way (as they say) about the latest round of mass mark and avoids and want to at least appear remorseful or something like that...

After fighting with the directors for two years before leaving for good let me assure anyone reading along that they are worse than paper tigers, weakness at it's finest. All they have is threats and intimidation. I marked and avoided their sorry behinds in 2008 so it's a rap at this point.

I agree that Churches have made twisted metal of that verse hands down. It actually tells one how directly in the verse: 2 Corinthians 9:7 “Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver" Don't give grudingly or out of obligation. Give what you purpose you want to give. So it's not that we are commanded to be cheerful either, just that God loves a cheerful giver. I give a lot of money to the homeless and others in need but it's not out of obligation or necessity or because the way international thinks I owe them minimum 10% of my income. I give quetly, privately, and when and where I want to and Im personally very happy that way. It's between God, me, and the person receiving the gift.

Thanks for the link. My experiences in the way international do not reflect this statement to be true, and I was one giving mofo. It always seemed that after giving away 15 to 20% of my income to the way international, and most of my time to the way international, that the only thing that was prospered was the way international. Stange perception, no? These guys still teach the necessity of the tithe, which by all accounts was for the Levites care because they served in the Temple year round and the priests gave a heave offering or 10% of their tithes for the high priest. After Christ completed the new covenant we are simply instructed to give as we purpose in our hearts and to be cheerful about it. Their doctrines on tithing are from the pit of victor paul wierwille's lusts for money.

Still makes me think they need to replenish their coffers after mark and avoiding all the RnR crowd and anyone that looked like em.

Great assessment. They act as if because Donna and Rosalie made Craiggers the fall guy for his scandal (not his practices as they all know he learned from victor paul wierwille and are complicit to this day) and whitewashed a bunch of classes and books that everything is ok now and can all go back to the way it was...pun intended. Yeah....not so. I could never turn back now that Christ is the focal point in my life....that's like going back to Egypt...no thanks.

What is really needed is the lithmus configuration.

HI, fellow nerd here! Been building gaming computers ince 2004 and just recently me and my son built his together. I used to be into Unrealtournament 2003, 2004, and UT3 which kinda flopped. But was in several gaming clans and used to do competitive matches and such. Also was into modding weapons in unreal script for a while, running a couple gaing servers and a teamspeak server back in the day. Retired from all that but still a computer nerd and serious Linux head. Running a server and setting up a music studio, which Im almost finished with at the moment.

Kinda makes me wonder if their coffers have dwindled. They had around $68 million somewhere around 2009.

Ditto....but these guys never quit...the ran the majority of people off then try a weak love bombing based come home campaign and act like nothing ever really happened. They ruined people's lives with a multitude of bums rushes and now they want folks to just come back cause the board of dummies says so. No thanks.

I signed up for parking crew

And it's a sad place to see anybody still stuck in blatant error and cult land out in the cornfields. Those books they esteem so highly even superced scripture to them as they let their books define scripture. Sad. Those few books are considered proven ministry research according to them and as such are above question and treated as gospel.

Unless you are me and they know you post on GSC. They know who I am and after I ordered from their bookstore they have my address, not that I care, but thankfully theyve never sent me one of their post cards. I agree with you though, why would anyone desire to go back into bondage?

Which is appropriate in an ironic sort of poetic justice kinda way considering they are pharisees in practice and HQ is rife with all sorts of cultic legalism.

Ahh...its a secret ingredient but it's also Pennywise...

I never figured out what IT actually is....what is it?

Isnt it seemingly (not really) mysterious how all those things were packaged as living the great mystery in the household of the prevailing word as the world moves over the world and we live victoriouly taking pflappy for the 351 time? Strange to say the least.

That about sums it up better than I could put into words.

Yeah, basically never fast enough, never strong enough, never good enough. Praise was rare in my way corps training and we were treated like pond scum by the staff and graduated way corps. So most of the training is mostly polishing the flesh from an introspective perspective. I had extremely low self esteem as graduated way corps but also an ego the size of texas because I was way corps.

Another example of the way international taking a scriptural reality and abusing it by what they teach and practice. I endured the love bombing as well....the way corps training is so introspective and legalistic I think it's desinged to turn out hard edged so called leaders. The way international shouldnt ever speak on the mystery since they reject Christ as a person who accomplished something for them and a name sake to tack on the end of a prayer to make sure it makes it up to heaven. Sad really, they try to take him from the living Chrsit to the absent Christ.