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And you think this is alright? Do you not see how awful this is? There is no good stuff to be had from the devil. So, he knew and admitted he was pulling from the doctrines of devils and this is your idol? You prefer this idiot to the Lord Jesus Christ? No wonder Christ is absent to you. This entire Seinfeld-ish dialog is nothing more than a lame attempt to straw man your way out of this dllemma. It was the nazi-way corps...not it was...insert bullshonta reason here...deal with the fact that your idol was a false prophet who knowingly intermixed the occult into Christianity. Prove to me I am wrong. Dont you understand how egregious this sort of thing is to the Lord Jesus Christ? It's blasphemy on steroids! These doctrines cause REAL damage in the lives of those that believe the lies...but your fine with that. My conscience is clear in this matter.
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No I didn't get that right, I was dead a$$ wrong and that's the point of me saying that I RATIONALIZED devilish doctrines intermixed into vicotor paul wierwille's teachings - I had to lie to myself. And you know what else? Once I fully realized how awful this garbage really is I repented - yes: I literally got on my knees and asked God for forgiveness. I was devestated because not only did I believe a lie, I taught others the same lies and that makes a person the LEAST in the Kingdom of my Lord! I asked for forgiveness and am making amends. Not that I need to add anything to what Christ accomplished, but Im posting this information here so others don't make the same mistakes. Mike - is your conscience seared with a hot iron? Do you feel anything when someone tells you that victor paul wierwille was doing the devils job for him? I know you feel a healthy sense of agitation but that's not your conscience that's cognitive dissonance. By your own words you admit you would rather believe a lie than believe the truth, even when its dead in front of your face. Tell me mike, why can't you discuss the actual material I posted? Trolling tactics? Or....Im taking a firm bet that the truth is extremely uncomfortable for you. The truth that makes you a gigantic hypocrit. You readily jump on GSC and critisscize, condemn, and complain about any Christian group besides the fake-Christian group you adhere. I.E.: Those awful trinitarians that are so deceived (loosely paraphrasing your words), yet they don't unknowingly follow and teach the occult in Christs name, yet, your father in the word conscisously included occultism (doctrines that have a person glorifying the devil 's doctrines in Christ's name) into his theology and you readily accept it and then rationalze it all away. You grab onto one sentence where I readily admit I was wrong and deceived and tell me I was right. Either deal with the material or quit all your bullshonta rationalizing. Wierwille was a false prophet. Deal with the evidence. Line by line. Show me with evidence - both Biblical and otherwise, where I am wrong. BTW - you do realize that if wierwille really walked for God the way he said he did God would have told him that he was mixing occultism into his package of garbage that had been known and understood in spades since the first century, and well before. That makes hims stupid. You try to say how stupid I am on other threads when I raise legitimate challenges to the garbage you interject, yet stupid lil ole me can easily identify occultic error in wierwilles trash teachings. He gets no respect from me cause he was a liar and a dullard, or a liar who INTENTIONALLY misled for his own greedy, base, gain. Yet - you are so intelligent you are asked to sit in with a group of neuroscientists for several years discussing deep intellectual matters...and yet you can't accept the plain truth and stumble at the most elementary Christian principles: 2 Corinthians 6:15: And what concord hath Christ with Belial? This is a BS trolling tactic. First you come up with a multi-paragraph post of rationalizing bullshonta, then you try to forbid anyone from discussing the bullshonta you posted that never actually dicusses any points I posted on topic: So - take a healthy dose of your own advice and stay on topic. Discuss the post I made. Dont talk around the post...cmon man...even your idol wierwille got tired of reading around the word and tossed all of his imaginary 3000 book library in the city dump...lmao...patent bullshonta.
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I inclueded Ethelbert in the following thread that should add some insight on his numbers routine:
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And that's only if you pay at least 10% or more of your income....freedom is not free....
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ROFLMAO@T-Bone...I loved those memes you posted, especially the non-prophet one...classic.
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2 Corinthians 6:15: And what concord hath Christ with Belial? It's well known that victor paul wierwille had a plethora of people where he pulled his information. For the record, before I became a Christian, I was heavily involved in the occult. By occult I mean: - black magic - voodoo - Santeria - Kabbalah (Jewish mystiscism) So when I learned about the law of believing in TWI I immediately recognized the same principles I used in my occultic practices interwoven into wierwille's brand of Christianity. Of course , my former waybrained self, I just decided that the adversary had stolen godly principles and mixed them with the occult. I have come to realize that wierwille pulled heavily from people who were involved with the occult. Much of what he utilized/stole was from sources who had already intermixed trancendatilism/metaphysics/mesmerism/etc. into Christianity. It seems the source of this occult infiltration into Christianity comes from the Word of Faith movement, which traces it's roots to New Thought beliefs that go all the way back to the late 1800s. Obviously, this sort of thing has been happening since the inception of Christianity with Gnostiscism, of which Alexandria, Egypt was a stronghold taking these roots straight back to the first century. Im going to post up some links for discussion. Law of Believing OldSkool's 2cents: https://cloud.disroot.org/s/o2n6WBFDT3BNnSQ John Jeudes: http://www.empirenet.com/~messiah7/rsr_lawbelieve.htm Some of Wierwille's heros. Phineas Parkhurst Quimby - New Thought (discussed in Oldskool's 2cents - wierwille never dropped his name to my knowledge but the influence of this man on all things wierwille is huge) E.W. Kenyon - New thought (discussed in Oldskool's 2cents) EW Bullinger - Gematria - I need to look into Bullinger further, but for to include Gematria into scripture is extremely deceptive on his part and very likely points to Kabbalistic influences http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/number17.htm#287 https://occult-world.com/gematria/ Albert Cliffe - According to Cliffe, attainment of this goal is aided by the impersonal Christ force indwelling every human being. Since "there is no death"(9) a person simply goes to "that plane of thought which you have prepared for yourself" which can loosely be termed "heaven" or "hell."(10) Cliffe's pantheistic viewpoint combats Scripture, promoting man from sinful creature to a microcosm of the "Creator." These a-Christian beliefs have been marketed for centuries by mystics and occultists, often under the thin disguise of Christian terminology which Cliffe favors. http://www.empirenet.com/~messiah7/rsr_lawbelieve.htm Rufus Mosley - Christian Science https://www.truthunity.net/people/rufus-moseley He found footing for his spiritual journey through Ralph Waldo Emerson and other Transcendentalist writers, whom he quotes dozens of times in his autobiography, Manifest Destiny Glen Clark - http://www.glennclark.wwwhubs.com/ Karl Barth, Paul Tillich, and Richard and Reinhold Niebuhr: Barth, Tillich and Niebuhr considered the New Testament to be full of fictional myths, and rejected basic Christian beliefs such as the physical resurrection of Jesus Christ. Tillich’s writings suggest he was pantheistic and even atheistic. From: http://www.empirenet.com/~messiah7/vp_bioCoverup.htm For further reading: https://www.equip.org/PDF/JAW755-1.pdf
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It's that good ole cognitive dissonance kicking in. He states things as if they are verifiable science, in this case spiritual laws, and then when questioned he has no legitimate answers and becomes agitated towards participants in the conversation, resulting to name calling, insults, etc. It's what happens when wierwille's half baked theology scambles someone's eggs. I recognize it because it happened to me to a marked degree in the 12 years I ate, drank, and slept all things way international. I had to do a real honest check up from the neck up to find my way out.
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This is a list of on-topic questions raised by what you introduced into the conversation. Can you or can you not answer these questions.
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Sooo.....God raised Jesus Christ from the dead. Please explain how God almighty used spiritual laws in OVERCOMING natural laws in Christ's resurrection.
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Thats a point well taken. Literally, we are at this juncture because I asked mike to post up chapters from his book. I was expecting a scientific discussion paper. What I found was a rather poorly written disseration loaded with circular reasoning, undefined terms, claims that couldn't be sourced, and lots of contradictory information with various disciplines overlapping with no clear boundaries on how they are interelated. I used to run an editing business. I've worked on lots of discussion papers: governmental, scientific, medicinal, etc. As they say on the streets: This aint that.
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Well....point me to where in the Word these spiritual laws are enumerated. So far all you have done is show me from the Gospels what happens when a person has faith in God.
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Thanks for the clarification...seems you took me back to my education on the matter and all this time I thought apostle mike was introducing new light that turned out to be the same ole bullshonta.
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I understand full well what we are talking about. You introduced all of these spiritual laws, said they override physical laws, drew an analogy that didn't fit in anyone's mind except yours. But according to the above sentence it seems you are saying spiritual laws are not involved in natural man's life because there is no spirit in there..your words.... So....spiritual laws are involved in the decision making process of someone who isn't natural man? As a born again Christian I really wanna know what spiritual laws are affecting me. You need to explain how this works...since you are the one who introduced all of this into the conversation.
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Do you mean lift force in the Bernouli Principle?
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So Determinism is a law? You say a WHOLE NEW SET of laws, spiritual laws, come into play - what are these laws? What are some examples that show these laws in action? Then please demonsrate these laws. I really wanna know. Which Bernoulli are you talking about...there was an entire family of Bernoullis and many of them had many things named after them...which Bernoulli? Daniel? Jacob? Johann? Please plainly elucidate just how spiritual laws overpower physical laws? That's the analogy you gave. So if you are using analogies you surely can explain how it works in more detail...non-techinical types like me wanna know.
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And you need to communicate clearly and not dance around and hint. What spiritual laws? And assuming there is more than one, what are they? Clear, concese, rudimentary questions on something you stated. So teach me.
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What spiritual law are you talking about? Is there more than one spiritual law?
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So what hints u talking about?
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Oh...what hints are you referring to?
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Can you list these spiritual laws?
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Yeah, he really is a mixed bag. I cant even call him credible.
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This is the appendices that A Harmony of the Gospels was sourced from. http://www.posterite-d-abraham.org/BULLINGER/append119.html
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YW! To be fair, not all of Bullinger's appendices are trash. He was a briliant individual (as were his understudies Charles Welsch for example) who produced a lot of scholarly type work that add insight to scripture and he also produced some bullshonta. Wierwille stole from Bullinger and Welsch copiously.
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http://www.posterite-d-abraham.org/BULLINGER/append97.html and all of the appendices: http://www.posterite-d-abraham.org/BULLINGER/index_companion.html
