OldSkool

God certainly uses evil for his own purposes, thats in the Bible...not Da Verd tho...at least da verd acc to wierwille

Ya...wierwille was an idiot.... Jesus sat down on the right hand of God and has been chilling there ever since because it's all finished already.... I mean nevermind obvious scripture on the matter: I didn't know that occured on the day of Pentecost some 2000 years ago... I looked up שָׁבַת using Strongs and sat isn't even an alternate definition...it's just not there...so what does that leave us to deduce...that he got Sat from Saturday, which is the correct Sabbath day for the Jewish people? Or...or...did he just ties in a totally unrelated doctrinal error that all Jesus work is finished once he sat on the right hand of God? When it says he sat it's an indication of authority and power as God's Grand Vizier, to use secular terminology...it has nothing to do with sitting next to God and munching on celestial Bon Bons whilst us peasants use the law of believing to reach the cookie jar....complete and total error...so maybe statements like this are bait wrapped around the absent Christ hook used to ensare folks from the real non-absent Christ..anywho...

What is that uncle crap anyway....is it becuase victor paul wierwille was supposedly our father in the werd and his brothers on the board of trustees became our uncles or something?

Yes...thats the one thing that's unique to them....shameless, dishonest, inflated fluff pieces that double as propoganda and are designed to do little more than sell classes....gotta build the buzz...to build value ya know...class salesman are working hard out there...

Now thats tremendous, super-abundance, prevailingly, as the word moves over the world againn.....to sell PFLAT....oops..I meant PFALT....

Considering the auditorium holds 1500 I would say they were around 900 short...

Ahh...Charge of the Light Bridage....may as well let Iron Maiden contribute...

Fear not! Its on their main webpage.

They hide their dismal numbers in the states by including international outreach participants.

You have so many points to consider....but something to ponder for a second...is that...the TWITS in TWI believe that the lyrics are the absolute most important part of any song because they are "singing God's Word" --- So that is why they have such a God awful sound mix where the lyrics absolutely drown out the mediocre musicianship....so....yeah...."Well if a music coordinator mentioned it, then the T7TMOG must be a thing." Im off to get T7TMOG tatooed on my forehead and on my right hand....and Im gonna head to felly...dueces yo...I may even signup for PFAULT or I mean....PFALT as they call it now....

The Italian doppelganger....

Man Of God For Our Day and Time...a function fabricated by wierwille based on Old Testament historical realities and passed to Martindale. I wonder if the still think of themselves this way? Talking about the board of dummies.

Mogadishu!......also....he was da MOGFODAT

Ya, hes a legend in his own mind. If anyone dare disagree with Mike then they just havent studied pflappy enough times to get it! Personally, I studied everything TWI including PLAFFY ad nauseum and there's just not lot of depth or truth to any of it. wierwilles writings are elementary at best and the only books put out by the way international that were done properly and by actual researchers was Jesus Christ our Promised Seed and Jesus Christ our Passover...both works written by those staffing the research department at the time and both works had wierwille's name slapped across the covers that he didn't actually write. But hey...steal your works from other ministers or steal your works from those you hired...plagiarism is plagiarism. But what do I know...I probably need to go read plaps again....brb....

Thats interesting. Never considered this point and you are exactly right. Teling isnt it. Most of the book itself was cobbed together through her diaries and notes and scrapbook type materials...dead on the money. She must have been so happy to get the wonderful opportunity to sift through all those years of lies and deceit concerning the man she called mean at his funeral. Interesting.

Came to read along and the strangest thing happened...mike hijacked the thread...man that never happens....

Interesting point and it explains the way international's latest move to pump their pathetically low numbers in the US by now including the so called "over thirty international countries"....not sure what an international country is exactly but you get the point. Check the webiste. They make themselves seem like they are so vibrant, growing, and moving the word all over the world but all the did was start showcasing other countries because Rosalie and other rocket scientists at the director level, in all of their accumulated wisdom have marked and avoided most of the way of the USA....comedy at its finest...they kick most followers out and then ask them to come back.

Which by default makes it a corrupt organization.

I couldnt agree more. I loved the point yall made on definition of neighbor.

Wow....that goes to show that LCM knew the correct answer scripturally and wierwille led him astray right on the spot, thus LCM's retort "You understand what I asked?" Ive always though wierwille corrupted LCM and this is a little piece of that puzzle...thanks NateJr. Follow this link and hit ctl and F at the same time so it searches the webpage. Search the word secret https://biblehub.com/kjv/matthew/6.htm that thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly. and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly. and then there is: or there is nothing hid, which shall not be manifested; neither was any thing kept secret, but that it should come abroad. I would say that the words of wierwille do not agree with the Words of Christ.

Thanks!!

Great post BTW. The section you stated that I quoted sums up quite a few things for me. To loosely quote Wordwolf "Im glad I got involved when I did and Im glad I got out when I did". My life was bettered by the programs I participated and my time in the way international from where I was when I first got involved at 23. (It was never bettered by their cultish practices and philosophies to be clear, those things caused damage) I did have a series of undeniable miracles God performed in my life and I was given a calling and a purpose. As a youngster I only saw that purpose in context of TWI. Now I understand that the way international wasn't necessary in and of itself, but it did serve as a vehicle where I learned much and did much for God and helping others. I think this mostly summarizes my field experiences...then I went to HQ on my apprectice year in 1999. I spent the next 9 years being exposed to all the flim flammery that had been happening around TWI HQ in Ohio, Gunnison, the wife swapping at Indiana Campus and such...and I was flat out devestated. Then the more I was involved with things at these locations the more obvious it becamse to me that there was major evil afoot that was accepted and perpetuated by the Board of directors and thier inner group. I was telling myself during this time that I could change it from the inside if I was to stick around long enough...well those plans were interrepted when the directors set their sights on me and all heck broke loose for a couple years as we battled it out culminating with my permanent departure. My sin? Having a child born with kidney disease and being demoted for it and disagreeing with their decision. Thats illegal BTW, but who cares about such things in context of the directors. In the grand scheme of life I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that way international doctrines are corrupt, their classes are corrupt, on down the line and a little leaven leaveneth the entire lump. However, God's providence and plans were never thwarted. Scripture never returns void and I did greatly benefit from my time in TWI and during my way corps training I was able to devote a lot of time towards study and such and that benefits me to this day. My conclusion in the matter is people's mistajes, even though grevious at times, are not able to hinder God's purposes in the lives of the elect and his purposes will be fulfilled in us all. So I praise and thank God and praise and thank my Lord Jesus Christ for revealing themselves in me and others. TWI gets no credit though, and neither does wierwille and I say this because they demanded all the credit when they are servants the same as me, yet the act like they are the head of the body and it's quite distasteful. So...ramble...ramble...on and on...hehe...Ill st

The greatest secret was just a sales pitch used by VPW...kinda like Step Right up from PT Barnum...

You forgot to ask stretched or unstretched?

Way styles is a joke, and not the beauty salon either as thats what they used to call that endeavor as well. They used to have and likely still have a style sheet kicking around that is an absolute joke. The style sheet just enforces the way international's brand of religiosiosity with useless rules such as how and when to use holy spirit vs Holy Spirit (the gift given by God vs God himself according to them) and other such trivialities that enforce way speak in writing basically. Complete waste of time really, but hey, the way international is just that.