OldSkool

For those reading along, John Jeudes has a website that details some of the information Mike is asking me to provide...Mile wont go near this website or the link I provided on the Blue Book by Raf..but he want me to compile a list of changes the way international has made in their books over the years...riiiiight... http://www.empirenet.com/~messiah7/tw_new.htm

Im not playing along...your tactics are completely transparent...why on eart would I waste time putting anything together for you. Your an internet troll who is trolling a forum board of peole who have been damaged by the way international, an abusive cult founded by victor paul wierwille, why on earth would I spend any time on your requests.

you can do just that...you have the old copies and you can get the new ones and come show me where Im wrong...

MIke -- to be clear Ive wasted enough time messing with you on GSC. Ive seen you drag out topics, make them off topic, disregard evidence, change your position, change word definitions, change history, change scripture meaning, change reality so your cognitive dissonance is at a comfortable level and all so you can uphold wierwille. That's what I mean by intellectual dishonesty. And you have been posting here for 20 years and now you are acting like nobody has ever pointed out errors in the collaterals? That's you moving the goal posts...more intellectual dishonesty...Mike I was a leader in the same cult..I know all the tactics...you are completely transparent to me in your goals to bring pflap to GSC so you can convert us back into the same trap you are mired in. Im not interested and Im not wasting time on your homework assignments...plus I gave you enough material in that link on the bluebook if you really want to get into the collaterals start there.

here ya go... https://web.archive.org/web/20030713171917/http://www.livingepistlessociety.org/10Blue2.htm

I know exactly what you are doing and Im not playing along. Work it yourself so it has meaning to you.

1942 promise at the top of the list...twi knows it was a snowjob.

wouldnt matter if I did...you wouldnt care anyway...if you want to see for yourself get out any really old version of the collaterals or whatever and compare them to the new. Plus wierwille's theology was loaded with occultism and error and that had been documented here forever and a day and thos lies/errors are still present...no thanks, Im still not accepting homework assignments.

Personally, I think it's a very heart felt letter and it's obvious the author is having a spiritual awakening of sorts. I can relate to the enthuisaism and innocence in his choice of words...cool stuff. Oldiesman...if you have any influence over your friend perhaps you will be able to steer him away from getting further caught up in the cult. There is a honey moon stage with most people when they join up with TWI. Happened to me and ive seen others go through it too...its where a person starts learning scripture and begins to see God's love and glory in the face of Jesus Christ and they are on fire and then they get bait and switched by TWI into cult world and the real Jesus Christ gets supplanted by the absent one. Anyone ever needs look no further than Jesus Christ...no fake wierwilles necessary. Awesom lettter though, thanks for sharing.

That won't impress anyone here unless you can get them to come to GSC and talk openly about the material. Otherwise, these efforts make you happy and you are satisfied with them...it's sad you can't see the errors in all of vpws books --- I mean the way international knows there were a multitude of errors or they wouldn't have spent the last 40 years or so whitewashing wierwille's works. So, you are happy with this rationalisation then so be it...be happy. Your not gonna turn anyone here back to pflap. All your doing is giving readers multiple reasons to run for the hills and for that I applaud you.

Mike, you aren't used to civil disagreement. There is no enmity between me and you...I have no emotion attached to my posts, especially hate or anger or unforgiveness or whatever else.

What? You mean you wish he was a man. He wasnt a man but a drunken, plagaraising, predator who preyed on vulnerable young ladies in his own flock...

Gotcha game = dont disagree with mike...or call mike out on inconsistencies or errors, or fantasy land imagining.

Wyyy yessir!!!

If one thing mike has made his own from wierwille it's blame the victim. How dare Charlene write a book accusing wierwille of being a creep....he was the mogfodat...gotta be her fault...David sinned...ya...sounds stupid.

Its not an attempt to lighten up its a backhanded comment and it's obvious when you tie in all the times you call people slow, stupid, whatever slap you throw out there. You are seriously deluded. Honestly, I would love an honest conversation but you lack the intellectual honesty to do so. So if we disagree with you then we are suffering similar effects as a concussion ... right. This thread is about as honest as those loaded questions you get in cult land when you dont' tow the line..."Why wouldnt you want to goto ...insert something wierwillian here...?"

I really do try to read along mike...they didnt have bibles then and they went from the scrolls in the synagogues. Acts 17 And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews. These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. In the synagogues was where the scrolls were kept and they weren Gideon Bibles you would find in motel6. It was common practice to ask question of the scribes, pharisees, Drs of the Law and to actually argue with them. They employed true critical thinking skills. If you would actually like to discuss scripture in a meaningful way Im game...if you would like to keep imagining your own reality then were just gonna keep going round and round.

Nah...he keeps the syllabus in there along with his extra tunic and sandals.

You are misinformed if you think I actually think about anything you are actually doing besides a few BS posts on GSC...

My Lord...sometimes I think your cheese may have slid off your cracker....Jesus Christ is referenced all throughout the entire scope of scripture and then some. But it's the gospels that detail how he walked....personally...as he went about his ministry wearing sandals and a tunic where he became the passover and redeemed mankind.

It's whatever its used to modify. Spiritual partner is someone who gives money to a future nazi but it's a spiritual commitment that takes spiritual maturity in the spiritual competition - when spiritual is used as a modifier in the way international it becomes a way ministry sanctioned affair...otherwise it's not spiritual. See how that works? Its used rather haphazardly to mean whatever...but whatever word it modifies it takes that concept into the realm of the spiritual...wherver that is exactly...