OldSkool

uhh....he's going through his files....

Appropriate, no?

No, it isnt. Im really glad you got me thinking about all of this. Cool stuff. Option 1 is as you say, and going to scripture would be the only Christian method to determine what to do because Christ is absent. Option 2 is where a dispute between whichever parties over whatever disagreement decide out of love to goto the Lord in prayer and for him to make plain which solution is just in said dispute. Then out of love the parties can then wait and/or work together in faith that Christ leads them. Now, whether they find an agreeable answer in scripture, at Chruch, from a friend, or from the Lord himself they eventually reach an accord. Option two illustrates relational faith.

Yep. They may have marginal difference with the way international but at the end of the day the song remains the same with an added verse. Some of them are more deceptive that others as well because they hide the fact that they are a way internatinal splinter group. I tried the offshoot circuit within the first couple months of leaving the way internatinal. Boy, was that a mistake. All any of them wanted was for me to goto work for them.

No doubt. That's one of the main points of fail with fundamentalism. Whereas, the Bible is an eastern book it's loaded with their idioms, figures of speech, etc. Not to mention they thought pictorially and relied heavily on symbols, which causes a culture clash of sorts to the westen mind trying to understand an eastern book.

I made this comment on another thread: And I think it deserves an explanation. My life was bettered by the way ministry in a sense. Basically, goal setting, self discipline, working a wide variety of menial (some worthless) jobs, working with and meeting a variety of people, I mean Im not gonna lie and say it was all bad. Overall, I became a better person from those and other experiences. However, I could have accomplished the same thing and in a much better fashion than was accomplished in TWI without all the rigamarole foisted on me by the way international. And lets not sidestep that God isnt cancelled by the way international. Certainly, God has had his hand on my life for a long while now. So any improvement in a person's life, wherther from God or just from hard work, the way international not only wants credit but they demand blind obediance and undying loyalty. With that out the way, my life was damaged way worse in other categories due to the doctrinal/practical error they teach and I used to believe. It wasnt until I started unravelling the ball of yarn of my life that I really began to understand just where I had been lied to and how those lies led me astray in my relationship with God/Christ and other Christians even. Then there's the ethical side of things that led me to speak openly and candidly about all I have been exposed to with the way international's underbelly. It's ugly and was worthy of RICO charges. I will not give tacit consent by going away silently. I will not share in their sins by helping them cover it all up. But yeah, my life was made marginally better due to my experiences in the way international, right before a giant wrecking ball came through and left me in a mess that's taken years to climb out of. Anywho. The way I see it is if it took all the junk Ive had to endure to get where I am today it was worth the fight, and may the information and exposé I have contributed here continue to find it's way to those who need to see. We have taken a work amongst the bruised and broken hearted and brought healing and freedom to many. Thats for certain. The content on GSC is a huge piece of the puzzle in me finally leaving TWI back in 2008.

I get where you are coming from. But to distinguish psychological or emotional associations with their cosmology we still have to understand how they saw the universe. https://aleteia.org/2016/07/07/when-the-earth-was-flat-a-map-of-the-universe-according-to-the-old-testament/

Heliocentric models have been dominant for the past four centries or so, dominant meaning accepted by the majority. Before that geocentric models of one variation or another ruled the day, with the common belief that the sun orbited the earth, etc.

Ahhh...I see what's wrong here...YOUre expected to thank the for making the class available...or something or nother...

yeah...you need to take the class again...

He used to run an atom smasher too...

Mmmm...strong the way speak is with this one.

Cool. Post it up and let's compare it to scripture. Who knows might have some good points.

I was hoping for an answer but Mike probably was reproved by his fellowship coordinator for posting here...

Yeah, would have to say thats sort of a conundrum...

Yeah, right on the money.

Hey genius, when you leave the content of your post inside a quote box you essentially bury your own post because very few people will actually realize you buried your own comments in a quote and will keep it moving...dont know why Im teliing you this...you post very little of value but hey....now you know....or you knew all along and are once again employing trolling techniques to try and make threads unreadable. Or maybe you try and bury it in a quote box because it's difficult to quote in response.

Ahhh...there it is. You do hold to the garbage that wierwille taught that having a relationship with Jesus Christ is anti-Christ becuase its' not the absent-Christ, non-biblical garbage that wierwille taught. Your posts indicate a high level of dishonesty.

Oh boy, my life was changed for the better by his ministry, but the way international is built on a stack of lies propagated by wierwille. Because there was improvement doesn't excuse the evil's. My life is the best now that I dropped my idolization of a false prophet and turned to Christ, you can keep your better.

That's a lot of words to say it's some senseless bull$#!+ You made up.

That's a wierd way to describe the truth. VPW was a fake.

Great suggestions! Thanks!

Just what in the actual eff is an anti-idol anyway. You talking about Jesus Christ?

You off your meds or something? For those reading this is classic TWI bullying tactics in action. Try and stifle the truth by saying it isn't on Godly to point out negatives in others lives. Strange that only applies to wierwille, mikes idol. Because they never apply that logic to people that don't tow the line. Those types are marked and avoided and labelled posessed.