OldSkool

\/\/|-|'/ 7|-|4|\||< j00Z. hehe....leet speak on Grease Spot.

Ya, I guess prayer isn't communication... Ya.

OMG - Boy have I heard the double speak on that one. Comparisons to Craig and David, the adversary taking him out because of his ministries, attacks by the adversary from within the household of Zion, Craig being fired was a major impediment removed from victory in the Allen lawsuit, etc. But one thing I have never heard a wayfer admit. That they were duped into believing that Wierwille had a special pipeline to God and he installed Craig by revelation. Craig was rotten from the beginning and Wierwille made a terrible choice. But hey, when Craig walked he walked....

Craig taught in his foundational class that Eve had sex with the devil who had come into concretion as a beautiful woman. Adam consented to the idea. Don't most men?... The research was half baked and to top it off he used half of Michangelo's The Fall and Expulsion from Garden of Eden (which is from the Sistene Chapel) as an illustration. He also said that it used to be common knowledge but had been lost - that's what the painting proved. I think he blamed the adversary for hiding this information. Here's what the full painting looked like. Here is a link: http://www.moodbook.com/history/renaissance/sistine-chapel-book-of-genesis.html Here's the whole scene. Uploaded with ImageShack.us What better place than to hide the truth than the Sistene Chapel? Mucking Foron. Forehead must've been smoking some of that rabbit tobacco.

After staring at that painting I see nothing sexual. I see a serpent/woman handing Eve fruit and Adam reaching for his own. The serpent/woman combination likely symbolizes the craftiness, and subtlety described in Genesis. What better way than to portray these traits than an image borne similar to the one who was deceived? The snake/woman bears a eerie resemblance to Rozilla though. mmm....Dohhnnaaa too

Wish I could get mine back I think this is it. He showed this, or one very similar, in Craig's version of the way and abundance and power foundational class. Uploaded with ImageShack.us Of course this has been sanitized from the new version.

Excellent post mstar!

I had to come back and re-read this. I mean your experiences are not at all uncommon. I have known and heard of others who have had their submitted research work buried and then lied to. It just goes to show you that they do no research, and the RE-search they claim to do is not credible at all since they have RE-defined research with third grade, circular logic. That's right up there with someone explaining RE-fried beans. Thank you very much, I know - brilliant, eh? Please send in at least ten percent of your wages, and preferably more, to OldSkool at 127.0.0.1 (for non-geeks 127.0.0.1 is a loopback network connection that goes nowhere - thought it appropriate since rudimentary, circular logic is the thought du jour.)

Waysider from Witnessing and undershepherding in the About the way section. I'm still cracking up.

Rottie, great post! I really appreciate it. Ok this one had me in stitches. Thanks for the laugh and so true.

Well, goofball Craig used the art as an illustration that this secret knowledge of Eve and the Devil having sex was once so well known that an artist painted it. Brilliant research, eh? That's one of the "hidden" keys to biblical research that is taught in the Uber, Special Advanced Class for the Super Special Advanced. It's called "Concepts that have been previously hidden, but are seemingly "obscured" in the text may be supported by previous artist's rendition." Apparently, Craig was the only who was super special advanced enough for the Uber, Special Advanced Class for the Super Special Advanced. Naturally, no one else would see it in the text, or "get it", much less believe it. How's that for baffling them with bull$h!t

Yes, you are correct. I had to go look them up after getting the answer wrong. I was thinking of when he was going to fight Thulsa doom in the epic battle towards the end. The one you ad posted was the one where he first met the wizard when he was on the way to Thulsa doom the first time....lol....love Conan.

Whao, that's lame.

Welcome H w/o B!! Glad to have you here!

They lie. I was told that they were accredited in Colorado. Lie like a rug. What a ruse. It wasn't as if it was a rumor either, it was someone administrating the program that told me.

then to h3ll with them!

Either way you're cracking me up and on a roll!

They have yes men validate their positions. That's brilliant. Pages straight out of a communist regime. Well, anyway. Now-a-days instead of a yes man, we have "yes ma'ams" ----- get it-----yes ma'ams...

I had forgotten and I just realized that over-spiritualizing is really and admission that they spiritualize everything...ya maturity....

And on that note I would like to thank reverend rivenbark and the board of directors for treating me so harshly when there was really no reason to. It's because of this treatment that I realized that there are many places to go and all of them better than the way international. I sure am grateful!

Faithful to follow Rozilla's orders.

Holy smokes! I had those classes and they were absolutely terrible. I could barely stay awake and then the tests they gave us on the material were worse than the class. What a joke. They had better hope that Colorado stays laid back in their accreditation standards, otherwise they will not be able to issue those worthless degrees they give out. It's insane that you were disregarded and treated that way. I guess that was your welcome into the way corpse.

Nope, they must demand the strictest obedience and control. And the result? Barely anyone left. And the morons say?...?? well, we are a faithful remnant.

Awesome post! Gen2 - yes, that guy is an a$$ - Sorry you had to have something so mean spirited directed at you, especially at a time of loss.

This is interesting. So it would seem that to be with the way international then a person trades volumes of knowledge (whether right or wrong is beyond the scope here) for very little true love of God. It would also seem to point towards the twisted "tough love" Craig Martindale and others used to talk about so frequently to justify their evil dealings. Slogans like "the love of God has teeth" come to mind. Tough love is simply telling someone the truth even though they may not want to deal with it and taking actions, if necessary, to not enable destructive behavior. I.e. - alcoholics. It in no way infers harsh, legalistic treatment or suppressing dissension, etc. So it's trading knowledge for bondage and potential abuse at the hands of a controlling, legalistic cult. I would rather church!