OldSkool

That's just gross.

So in their arrogance and disdain for their followers they want to be able to exist without their support. That is crazier than I thought. In the past several years I began to think that for the people who were blindly committed to the way international, that the ministry had become their god and the directors had taken the place of Jesus Christ. So by the way international money - it lives!

This person is my hero.

I guess it's not rocket science that they ARE hoarding money. Maybe the rocket science would come into play figuring out WHY they are hoarding their money.

I'm not sure of the dates of the added structures. I do know they obviously followed the Chalet. But in what order and when I am unsure. They aren't new, that much I can tell you. The other structure you are talking about is the Cabin in the Woods. It was moved to HQ by in-residence Way Corps, and restored. They did a nice job. It's an old log cabin. I liked it a lot.

I only know about the 401k they have for Staff. I would wager that they have something for themselves at some level, perhaps? Maybe not. sadly, I don't know. They are way too hush hush so if it exists it would take Rosalie to come post about it. I won't hold my breath for that...lol

Of their $54 million in assets they have, as of 2008: Short Term Investments $24,963,291.05 Other Investments $1,184,449.84 Total Investments $26,147,740.89 That's roughly 49% of their total assets in investments.

I suppose one could speculate that they have learned to trust in their money. Around HQ we were reminded very often that we were working off of abundant sharing (ABS). We were never told we were working off of investment dividends gained from ABS. But the reverence for ABS was stressed! Perhaps it has just become one delusional reality of hoarding away money in the name of God. They give nothing back to the community, the do very little to help the financially strapped corps on the field. A lot of things are not reimbursed to field Way Corps. Usually their leadership just tells them to consider it ABS. They produce a weekly STS and a bi-monthly War Ragazine. What in the h3ll do they contribute? Oh, I know, they teach the word like it hasn't been known since the 1st century!

That my friend is the 54 million dollar question.

In Founders Hall there are single rooms, used to house two to a room. Used to be four to a room with two double bunks back in the old days. Then there are Suites. Suites are two small, identical opposite rooms with a shared bathroom in the middle. Then there is the full sized apartment that was occupied by Donna. I don't know of any special rooms. Although some of the rooms on the west side of the building are a little bigger, but not by much. Really, I think Donna moved there to keep an eye on the young people coming and going. There used to be a little party scene amongst some of the younger folks, most of them are no longer on Staff.

Here's the Chalet, Chalet Annex, Corps-tel and Way Woods home. The Way Woods home is a MAJOR POS that needs to be demolished. It was thrown together hap-haphazardly many years ago. It housed VP Platig. I has a very tiny apartment in it that is barely suitable for a dog kennel. Yet I know two married couples with babies that were tossed in there. Deplorable really. The Chalet is VERY fancy and expensive. King and Queen Martindale ruled the world from this location for many years. Last I knew it was inhabited by Rozilla's secretary and Donna's sister who is on the President's Cabinet. They make a cute couple. They vacation, do laundry, shop, live, eat, and who knows what else - TOGETHER! :o The Corps-Tel, which was intended to house traveling way corps who stopped in to visit HQ, is mostly, if not entirely unused. No way corps would be allowed to "stop in" to visit HQ. If they did visit it's likely they would stay in Founders Hall and the trip would be planned months in advance. Nothing like putting the best out there for the Corps. Of course not many way corps venture there without good reason. The chalet annex is where all the extra super secret, confidentially confidential director group meetings happen. Real hush hush stuff goes on in there. If I had to guess the recurring theme that comes up in their meetings is "NO - WE DON"T WANT THE BELIEVERS DOING THAT."

Really, it's not to hard too figure out. Vision and Direction, a reference document given to the way corps, has defined that each branch, limb, region should see an increase in classes and abundant sharing year over year. Increase in money is the least common denominator. HQ and Gunnison have been hemorrhaging staff for several years now. Obviously, this would reduce expenses in a major way. Yet, budget cuts at headquarters are an ongoing process. Ever learning how to do more with less. Most areas have trouble meeting their class quotas, the advanced class attendance numbers are dismal, way disciple ranks are fewer, in-residence way corps (probably a liability) is teeny in numbers. I wonder, pray-tell is the abundant sharing down? I would guess that it is since 2000 when the latest mass exodus happened. From the now defunct excultworld.com http://web.archive.org/web/20030209204549/www.excultworld.com/misc+stuff/TWI+Financials.htm Seems like the money has recovered just fine, expenses should be down, yet the way international like to pay their staff just above minimum wage. They are notoriously cheap. So it would seem from what I mentioned above that the way international has been amassing money for quite sometime. Is this growth? Is this what it means when the way international says they are in a position of strength? In spite of the bible being clear that the tithe is no longer in effect. Concerning giving it's as a person purposes in their heart - It never mentions money. So, I could purpose to give bread crumbs and if done with a cheerful heart to meet a persons lack it would well pleasing in God's sight. So let's get honest. IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY!

She's Rosalie and Donna's pal. She is also Rosalie's personal trainer down in the fitness aisle. Used to make me sick seeing them there, especially cause they always had some snide comment to me when I was working out. Usually about the amount of weight I was using. Guess they never seen a man lift weights before.

Yep. Same here. That startling realization that I had believed the lies was very humbling.

Yep. They have audited returns done every year. Subpoenas da foolz!

Crazy. And I don't think you are stupid at all. Just took a wrong turn into a POS cult. Same as me.

We've come for your daughter Chuck.

Well, one would think. But the circular logic would never allow such an obvious deduction. He was giving SOOOO much he didn't need to pay any money.

ROFL!! Exciting, perhaps?....I know, just play one of his old teaching classics like "Put Your Money Where Your's Mouth Is" and surely while he is screaming at you to give at least 10% or God won't even spit in your direction you will find him VERY EXCITING! :biglaugh:

No, there is full size 2 bedroom apartment in Founders Hall. It's on the first floor by the west entrance (main parking lot). Perhaps back in the day, it was for the in-rez corps coordinators? But, h3ll to the no does Donna live how everyone else does. I couldn't make up something that stupid. Sadly, the forehead was extremely sensitive to anything that would disturb his "research." I was in building services at the time and we had replaced carpet and pad in one of the rooms. I asked my coordinator at the time where the bathroom was and he gave me the low down. Told me how extremely tight things were in the Chalet and told me to be thankful that Craig wasn't there at the moment because if he was, and we would have been told he was there, then I would have to sit down because the only restroom available for maintenance folks was near his study.

K & family.

When The Forehead was living there any of the male maintenance workers had to sit down to take a leak because he was sensitive to the sound. And....you think Donna could have lifted her judgmental, lazy finger to the switch to solve the problem? I wonder the opportunity cost in setting all those people in motion over a light being left on.

Well, it's three buildings that make up one facility. The Chalet is where The Forehead lived. Donna lived there for a time but moved to Founders Hall Apartment. Living there when I left was Rosalie's secretary and one of Donna's sisters who is on the cabinet. Personally I think those two are a lot more than friends. There is also the Corps-tel, that is mostly unused. And the Chalet Annex. The director group use the chalet annex exclusively for their private meetings, and many there are.

Wanda and family live in the Wierwille home. Donna lives in Founders Hall apartment. At least a couple years ago. Well, in the immortal words of Geroge Jess - communicate, communicate, communicate (then he turned w/o another word and left - ironic, eh?) :biglaugh: