OldSkool

They called that the Airport Home or some such weird name when I was around. They sold the home but kept the large wooded lot adjacent to it. They have hopes that Crown will make them an offer at some point. Well, Donna lived in the Chalet for so long I would speculate that she missed the gravy train. Way Builder's is now defunct. If the way international did build her a home they could not hide it from their yearly audit and would need to sell it at market value to be legal, which means Donna would have to fork over the dough or go into debt. The finally learned private inurement means.

Glad the suit is over. You mean to tell me it took a court case to "resolve" things to their satisfaction? Couldn't they have just worked this out of court? James, I am assuming you would have been amenable to this...no?

That's a prime example of a legalist adding articles and subsections to way international law. Law = God called you to the way corps. Subsection 1, article 43 = If God called your parents then you are also called because he calls the entire bloodline, starting with your parents.

Oh, grief. Ya the cliches are murder. A couple years before I left people started saying "love you!" to each other instead of bye or later or whatever. And they always made sure it sounded extra sappy. :excl:

Now that is certainly something we never can quote Jesus as having said. No, he just had compassion and ministered by speaking to the particular problem that it be removed, healed, etc. Eh, but what did he know...?....

Nice!!

That 2 drink limit is a freaking joke. Way back when I was concerned about abiding by it my solution was have my wife make extremely strong cocktails. Two are all anyone would want. Mind you I don't like getting drunk. But two of hers will toast you up nicely. Funny thing is I can remember some of the hard corps legalist always adding new articles to the already stupid and failed law. My all time favorite was someone telling me that "it's not 2 drinks everyday either." Those guys are losers. I find it humorous too that they want to defame now that you are gone. That is pretty much a ministry wide practice. God forbid other's from the flock would follow you guys out the door. Soooo incredibly many people have left over the years, and continue to leave while out reach has dried up. It's like trying to cap an oil well with a bandaid. Oh well, off to have a drink!

Yer welcome!

Yep. Shallow pond that one is. Yep, Douchimus Maximus!

Hi, nice to meet you. There, now you have met at least one...feel special yet? .. (we are few ) Of course it was during the reign of The Forehead that I was "called" (barf) in to the way corps. I can only speak for myself in this regard. When I first became involved with the way ministry I had a lot of positive changes in my life from prayer, bible study, meditation - in short I had the very beginnings of a relationship with God and Christ. I cannot deny, even to this day, the goodness of God I experienced at first. A person doesn't need the way international for this sort of thing - it's between God and his children. Yet the way international's modus operandi is to insert themselves in the middle and take credit for it. So, like the young, naive dummy I was at the time - I believed it. But I was so excited that my life had changed so dramatically, that prayers were being answered, that I was able to just quit drugs that I had been addicted to for several years. I really believe that a person is extremely vulnerable to the wolf in sheep's clothing during this time. And sure enough the wolves told me that I needed to commit myself to the ministry that taught me God's Word. The sad thing is the more of "God's" word they taught me the less my relationship with God became and the greater my relationship to the way ministry grew. I decided that if God was willing to help a person like me, and I was NOT a good person, then I would be willing to go into the way corps. And so I went through the classes and programs, ever indoctrinated, ever steeped in way international legalism, ever swimming in guilt and fear - and my relationship with God was non-existent and in it's place was blind obedience to the way international's board of directors. Gen-2 - It's a bait and switch. The way international are supplanters. They take credit for the working of God and demand praise, loyalty, money, and from some, their life indentured in "Christian" service. Sadly, some folks never make it out, they spend their entire lives encased in what I described and raise their children the same, and onwards. I can say in retrospect, the methods are extremely subtle. And I would say beyond the shadow of a doubt worthy of the greatest damnation. I firmly believe that people who are supposed to be ministers (priests, pastors, preachers, etc.), and use the congregation for gain, have violated a sacred trust - proving themselves to be the lowest scum! And that's not to say that every way corps or person involved with the way ministry is the lowest scum...no, not at all. I'll stop here for now.

I just had myths and legend of da founder recounted to me from those who were around when the man of gawd walked the earth.

Yep. Dealt with this too. In the end I became pretty good at fending off interrogations. Learned to recognize the loaded questions and kept and simply say "I don't know for sure." Of course some of the slicker ones would rephrase the questions and ask them again, only to receive the same answer. I remember a few of my leadership would try the uncomfortable silence approach, hoping that I would start babbling along. Shutting up usually made this backfire. Does anyone else find it odd that we had to learn how to fend off interrogation techniques to goto "church?"

:) :wacko: :biglaugh:

Way back when I was a mindless zealot and took Craig's advanced Class; I was terrified / excited to shake his hand. I somehow thought he would know all about me and pronounce some special designation on me. I suppose if he had it would have been "dupe." Talk about anti-climatic. I got the impression that he would rather be someplace else than shaking hands with plebes. Turns out he was probably in a hurry to go get his turtle waxed.

Oh, it took me several years to get the balls to lie about things. And it was always in the back of my mind...

Yep.

Yep. But, mind you, God isn't a tattle tale.

Thanks Waysider.

It was strange just seeing the pic of him.

Just then The Forehead arose and started yelling disjointed bible verses as the spirit rested upon him.

No, Vicster Doc was Pre OldSkool. I have heard a lot of his old way corps teachings and U of L tapes. But never the "genuine" article.

OMFG! I have heard several variations of this (never that he had cancer) from some of the elder wayfers that helped "raise me up." The underlying thread was he "gave up the fight" or that he was "tired of fighting, as the man of God." I hadn't heard the broken heart angle before though. That's rich.

Say what? What spin was this?

Here ya go. http://www.earstohear.net/Kingdom/fourthman.html

Well, the way has the "study to show thyself approved" doctrine wrong. It places an unnecessary importance on being "book heads." Spodazo means to exert a diligent effort. One could then say "Do your best to show yourself approved to God." This to me is a much broader scope of living the bible and keeping the weightier matters of grace, mercy, justice, and truth in perspective.