OldSkool

ROFL!!!

Thank you very much for taking the time to post / re-post that information! I have 0 respect for VPW, the man was a fake, cook, liar, sexual predator, etc - and the way international has him on a pedestal so all can come by and worship the memory of him they have worked so carefully to concoct and preserve. No one else I had ever been around. Funny how stuff like that has way of leaving a REAL nasty impression. While people were doing really disgusting stuff, like reusing these cups, Vicster had millions stashed away in his coffers of the same people's money who were forced to swap spit via reused, disposable cups. Oh the irony.

OMG!! That could be the best one I have ever heard!1 Thanks for posting that, I am still laughing.

Ha. Gene was in Way Publications. As far as I know he did not help David, even though he is more than qualified. No doubt Polly is entwined with the website's lame a$$ content. Overall, I think Steve Longley via computer services is the website "direct report." But that changes as fast as underwear at times, so not sure now. And, Frau has published a big ole pile of jack $h1t! It's enough for that geriatric to re-work the FNC and INT class over an 8 year span. I mean INEPT! President's Publication's is totally a hold over from when they had a "president" that actually published something.

There is no research department. It is a designation that is given a person mentioned above who works for Polly Rotunda, who is the department coordinator for President's Publications. David spent a majority of his time as cabinet over building services and architecture and engineering when I was around. He did no true research. What he did was work topics, comparing them to proven ministry research...aka...Dr. Wierwille's works, Way Magazines, etc. Any research that actually happened in the past is now squelched and only in name does it occur. Kudos to Chockfull for the background information. Rest assured that anymore it is all history, as the current way international proves by their works, or lack thereof. Too bad everyone else isn't as stupid as Frau Q-Tip would like to believe....pssst...hey Rosie....your mantra of "let em speculate" seems to be kicking you in the rear...eh?

Egads...that's classic! And oh how they love to say they are no longer considered a cult by a similar (if not the same) group that was absorbed by Scientology. Let's ignore everyone else, that's just the debil.

O.K. After working with a self published client recently who gave his publication legitimacy by hiring an attorney to incorporate his own "press," that was nothing more than an entity filed with the State I am thinking real hard about what you are saying. I had never considered American Christian Press (ACP) but remember it stamped all over TWI publications. So, does anyone have the skinny on the official reasons this was started? I mean, wtf is ACP all about? If chockfull is off base, which I doubt, then someone please come through and debunk the hypothesis.

Great points, Chockful! It's easy to see some of the more obscured dots when you start thinking outside the board of directors imposed box.

Cool. I appreciate the clarification, and I meant no accusations...I think that was plain, but at times intent is muddied across all the wires. Keep on keeping on. I respect your efforts and appreciate your contributions. "He that is not against us is with us!"

My apologies, I did mention a Frau Q-Tip (whomever she may be) but it was not in the same context as your posts. I guess you had to see it in the original....or know that much of what is referred to here is in the context of what common experiences are shared by those who left. I wish you all the best, James. It is ironic to me...that you are here...on a forum of ex-cultists ranting about their x-cult. You, yourself, seem to be ranted about quite a bit by people who followed you....What's up with that?

So nice, I wanted it to be said twice! Guess it's established - God forbid anyone completes it - :P :wub:

Research is a farce as the way international is concerned. They do no real research. The compare what the authorized, and subsequently approved, teachers have to say via a meticulously control process called research. This "research" is defined by their own vice president, John Rupp, in their foundational class as "re-search" - because the search over and over again to make sure what had been taught is right. In reality, this process is their lawsuit proof method of controlling teachers content to make sure it aligns with "proven ministry research." That means everything currently released has to jive with everything else released heretofore that is lawsuit proof; thus making sure the prevailing word prevails another day. You doubt? Then why the revised control process in place that all teachers must pass - even though they are billed as Rev. (or Mr. or Mrs.) so and so are teaching the word? Why are all way magazine articles subjected to this same process? Why are all advanced class special teachers subjected to this same process? Why all the extra work making newly revised classes are just so? Why does virtually anything released, regardless the media, have to jive with what Dr. Wierwille, or another "accepted teacher", taught? Why did the way international remove ALL of Reverend Martindale's Way Corps meetings and Sunday Night / Teaching Services from the libraries at Headquarters and Camp Gunnison? Those are just a few rhetorical questions I am able to pose off the top of my head. I would love this to come up in a court of law. Talk about reasonable doubt! God forbid WAYGB ever grows a pair and starts talking. Good grief!

That means that some thinned skin pecker-head isn't "offended (a.k.a. not edified) by what just happened.

You see, in way international alter world....God had given us everything...all we have to do is claim it. In reality, we have been given a down payment, and exceeding great and precious promises that have yet to be fulfilled in their entirety...but....shhh....don't tell TWI that....it would ruin their entire MLM scheme.

Oh, ya, all that was APPROVED music...so the devil was effectively filtered out... &....lol@Gen2!

Hey, who needs anything else. of course... when you stop and start looking at the wording... vs So it begs the question....which is it? Probably would not stand up in front of judge, since all you really need is a reasonable doubt...but hey.... spiritual matters here.... not subject to common sense... even though it's just good ole' horse sense.... can only.... or available....mmmmm

My advice to Frau Q-Tip is go ahead and sue. Some us may just have our own resources to bring a nice little counter suit. Of course if it were a real concern, Pawtucket could always move the servers some place like: http://www.leaseweb.com/en Seems the Netherlands makes it tough for tort hungry people to do very much.

Well, the increased adversary chatter is only part of the comedy. They lecture the staff to slow down, be extra diligent, double check their plans, stay close to home, get plenty of rest, drink lots of water, and so it goes on. Of course during this time of heightened "readiness" the least little thing is blown out of proportion as a spiritual attack. Any offending actions are rehashed until the error is apparent to the offender and they can repent. Then when a storm actually hits you have maintenance, safety, and grounds on the front lines out on the property running around like the keystone cops getting everything back in order. Making sure the River Jordan (you know the little muddy farm creek that dries up w/o rain) hasn't overflowed the spill way or WW road bridge, that every little stick is back in place, and spiritually things are the best. Safety is supposed to have the extra spiritual sensibilities to be ahead of things, spiritually that is. In retrospect is is ABSOLUTELY insanity. And they know it, justifying it off a the outsiders not understanding spiritual matters. Give me the creeps just remembering this stuff. On another note, looks like Saturday there is a 60% chance of the adversary. He sure hates when they teach that stuff....just remember he is like a roaring lion...don't be afraid of the thunder....

I have my ideas but will keep them to myself.

Oh, I still believe the Bible and think it is pretty specific that there is a devil and evil spirits. However, the way international terrorizes it's people with that information and makes the devil a major focus in the Christian's life. The focus, in my opinion, should the God and Jesus. Not to mention they act like they have Old Scratch figured out. Their work in "discerning spirits" is mostly speculative garbage with little scriptural backing.

For those of you scratching their heads. The way international usually runs their advanced class in mid-june. They are located in Ohio which is thunderstorm central from March to October, every year, without fail. But, these guys have a several session period near the end of the has many categories of devil spirits, descriptions, attributes, etc. Honestly, in all my years in the way international that was the most useless section of information and it is the big secret. So, P.T. Barnum would be proud of the hype they put out as this portion of the class gets closer. And without fail they start talking about how mad the adversary is that they are exposing him like this. So, each year, without fail during this two week period in June thunderstorms will most likely happen. And when they do - you guessed it! It's the adversary, mad as hell that we are exposing his kingdom. So, since this is one of the craziest things I have personally seen I thought it worth a little comic relief.

With the advanced class coming I just know the adversary is madder than normal. So being the concerned person that I am I thought we could help identify when the adversary is near HQ. http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=New+Knoxville&state=OH&site=ILN&lat=40.4942&lon=-84.3185 So far it look like that between now and Sunday there is a 30 40 50 70 40 percent chance of the adversary. So, keep a look out and note anything out of the ordinary to aler WAYGB of the percentage of danger. It would seem that a vital component of discerning of spirits is the national weather service. Besides, we wouldn't want to hand full of new students to not be blessed.

He ended the "discussion" with this little teaching. Same old disjointed twi blather, wresting scriptures to support occult teachings. The law of believing is straight out of spiritualism / occult systems. That's another thread. Enjoy.

Yep, she's something else....exactly what I'm not sure....but something else none-the-less..