OldSkool

Nah, I don't think he cares about any of that. Rozilla is the source of the insomnia since she expects the safety department to be at the scene of trouble before it happens. I only wish I was being sarcastic. She really expects that of them. God will tell you, yanno?

A page right out of Simon the Sorcerer's playbook!

The best thing about mornings is, should the Lord tarry, there's always another one....BUMP!

Welcome, What About It!! Glad to see you posting here! Ya, the courtesy folds were repetitively ingrained in us while in-residence, if you had the misfortune to work housekeeping. Thinking oneself an expert in all things seems a lot like megalomania! Yes, I think that was Doc Vic. Megalomaniac! It has left it's scars on me. Again, welcome to Da Spot!!

Two hunters are out hunting. One of them falls over and seems not to be breathing. His friend calls 911* and cries, “What do I do?” “Well, first, let’s make sure he’s dead,” says the operator. There is silence, and then a shot rings out. The hunter returns to the phone and says, “Okay, now what?”

Earlier tonight a rather heated conversation fell out with Mrs. OldSkool. During the argument we came to yet another false paradigm set in place by Victor Paul Wierwille, continued and perfected by Lloyd Craig "The Forehead" Martindale, and silently perpetuated by the current short bus driver, Frau-The Blue-Q-Tip. That is that the founders of the way international and it's current board of directors are the experts in life. Then they set all these impossibly high standards that no one can live up to and that they themselves do not live. Who the hell made them the experts on life and living? Who in the hell said farming was God's preferred lifestyle? If that's the case why does he descend New Jerusalem from Heaven at the end of Revelation and not New Green Acres? What the hell business is it of theirs if I call dinner lunch and supper dinner? And who gives a crap how a farmer eats a light breakfast, big dinner, and light supper? You pencil pushing wimps sure as hell aren't farmers!! :realmad: :CUSSING: :mooner: And that's all I got to say about that...

They go in-residence.

And to be clear this is not a thread to bash non-Judeo/Christian beliefs. Folks can believe what they want and I completely respect that. I have a problem with the hypocrisy inherent in the way international's belief system and the fact that this system was sold to us as the be all, end all. I also think it's startling to see a "christian" group such as the way international so adamantly opposed to the systems the teach in part. And great to hear your back is healed!

I have heard of him but never bothered to read up on him. Thanks! Resurgence in the 50s eh?...mmmm

I doubt any of them feel the need to talk down the Christians who have borrowed their practices and draw negative comparisons, denouncing them as possessed. Or have "junk" tables where there are a mess of Christian writings, warning people to only browse these books in this safe haven because their leader has already ferreted out the necessary information. No, such hypocrisy is reserved for cults like the way international to do to others. Great points! Something else to consider is they sell their classes that contain the same practices they denounce.

Yay!

I want my doll, I want my doll...

IMO - being right ties onto the sales pitch used to promote the classes they are selling. And to them table etiquette is the pinnacle of love. Shallow well.

Probably not, but they do now

From my perspective it's glaring and has always been so. The curious thing is Victor Paul Wierwille supposedly read all these occult books so we wouldn't have to. Remember the junk tables? When I was around they still set them up at the Advanced Class. Sort of like a warning that this stuff was evil and off limits, but since they are on the way international's hallowed tables it's ok to tak a cursory glance. But after wards never look back nor read em again. Am I suggesting a conspiracy on VPW's part...nah, that Pikes Peak Seminary degree didn't come with that level of brain power. BUT - I do find it suspicious that we were warned away from the topic so sternly. Perhaps it would have raised too many questions? Perhaps educated some of those naive, young people and ministry kids? What was the line....something like "all of the information we need to know is in the advanced class syllabus."

Dig the link, thanks for posting that. Does New Knoxville qualify?

I am a big fan of John Juedes and many of his works. I don't always agree with every point he has but think he hits the nail on the head more so than not. I haven't seen too many links mentioned between what the way international teaches and the occult. Having been involved with both I see it plain as day. I am sure the innies would yuk it up when reading this but I say the joke is on them. The law of believing is sort of scriptural sounding in name only. The stayed mind, and all the concentration techniques, with the constant emphasis on concentration and then coupling that back around to the renewed mind and that being relevant to what you are "believing" for is occultism 101. All you have to do is drop the scriptural trappings.

Sad to say when I was new and had my way-goggles on I used to love his rants. In-residence, as I started to unravel, I went back and re-listened. The man was an idiot. You are so VERY correct about being devoid of substance. The sound bytes on Grease Spot's front page will prove the point.

Interesting! I hate to tell them that scriptures that talk about speaking in tongues NEVER say that you can focus that to influence situations. Speak in tongues for someone. Riiiight.

As long as it's not another wayfer in good standing they usually use it a validation for their erroneous beliefs. I told you so in other words. And they do enjoy it,