OldSkool

Yep, and thanks to the internet these creeps are exposed as the manipulating, money-grabbing, abusive cult that they really are! Stumble that, fockers!

Religion: Fellow Traveling with Jesus Monday, Sep. 06, 1971 Thanks to Gen-2 for posting this elsewhere.

Well, as corpse and someone who has been near the top of the totem pole, we are sworn to confidentiality at every turn of the way. Not in any legally binding, intelligent way such as non-disclosure agreements, but verbally and only until the secrets can be announced (if relative to the ministry). Most other secrets that have been told on Grease Spot were never intended for the light of day becasuse sunshine is a bad thing to evil deeds and they would only substantiate the supposed rumors and lies by taking us to court. They would incriminate themselves. It would be like the mafia taking someone to court. Rosalie is a big believer in telling subordinates a little less than what she thinks they need to know. Servants don't need know why, only what to do next. Then there is the mind numbing process that we were subjected to during our way corpse training. Most of us know of the wrongs but justify them as dirty laundry that does not need to be hung out in front of the believers as a stumbling block. That's speaking for the well meaning folks who see themselves as protecting the household from the adversary skillfully exploiting their leadership's human frailty against the weaker believers. Of course we would back it up with scriptures like "David banged Uriah's wife...blah" Then there are the ones, and many there are, who love to be in charge. Who willingly sell themselves and sear their own consciences by saying yes to anything their masters tell them, as if they are following God's orders. My little friend, the Panamanian Pineapple Face Wannabe, did a teaching to the way corpse on saying yes to leadership. So in a den of wolves some are misguided, doing the masters bidding grudgingly and half heartedly, conflicted and many of these wolves leave the pack eventually. Then there are the wolves who want to be at the head of the pack. These are dominant in numbers and have allowed themselves to become an abomination in their shameless feeding on the followers of the way international.

Same here. I appreciate farmers, especially their importance in a free society. On another note, woke up to a thunder booming gully wash. Getting lots of adversary over here. You know, the devil is just mad that they are moving into the discerning of spirits field right about now (Tuesday / Wednesday) in the advanced class! So old scratch, being the sly serpent he is, sends the same thing every year - thunderstorms. So easily discerned that when they happen there is a 100% chance that people will know and the leaders can point to the sky and say "Look the adversary is mad!" Oh crap, I am using common sense again....hang on.... There, a little kool-aid and I am as good as new.

That's great insight, Erkjohn. That helps explains a lot with the way international's appeal to the young folks. Yet, when Time magazine did their article they basically reported him as a crackpot, yet gave credence to his work because of the numbers involved. I suppose he just wasn't that impressive to the older, non-starry eyed. Now his memory is definitely deified. Every other word around there as reflected in all the so called present truth is Dr. Wierwille [said, did]

Yep! There were several families in-rezidentured while I was. One of the fathers had been an executive of an accounting firm. He was required to keep his brushing, flossing, Knowles breathing chart with the rest of us. He was in his late 40s at the time.

Yer all a buncha rebels!! Oh...sorry ....had a moment.....

I guess that's the by-product of running away the dissenters? Kiss a$$ on one end and be a kissed a$$ on the other.

Well, yes he did and so do his predecessors. Farmers and country folk are lauded as the people to be and the lifestyle to emulate. Which is crap.

Ya, the great "expert," cast in VeePee's own image.

Oh, big time if you are on Staff. On the field they extract quite a bit more out of you and lay the expectations on extra thick. Bring new people, run fellowships, basically it seems you receive an unsolicited promotion because you have a groovy new name tag.

The man was nucking futts! Edit: sometimes I just can't spell

OMG! They are shameless in the rock star status they put on way disciples, present and past in order to get more of them!

The team coordinators are usually, if not all ways, apprentice way corpse. Which means some of them are narcissistic, megalomaniacs who LOVE to be in charge.

I went way disciple twice. I can say in retrospect that next to my in-residentured way corpse years this was the worst year of my life. 2 separate 6 month runs. Ok, first off what's up with the mandatory relocation? Cult control method? Anyways, they have a way of mixing up teams boys / girls and varying age ranges. My first team had a lot of young folks as did my second which leads me to believe mama and papa way international follower like sending their kids into this fiasco to grow em up a little? We had one of the girls in our "household" that was just turned 18. Our household coordinator harassed this poor girls constantly, even going so far as to organize group confrontations against her on several occasions where she screamed at her repeatedly. It was sick. She was discovered late one evening going to sleep fully dressed so she could sneak out the window in the middle of the night, even though she was 1000 or so miles from home. The limb coordinator had to come smooth things over to get he to finish. The whole affair was absolutely horrible and I am ashamed to have been associated with it. I can say that I was the lone voice of dissent for her but to no avail. Anywho. The language describing the living situations is the same as WOW. Families, brothers and sisters. That creeped me out from day one since no one there was my family and I had already heard enough about the "spiritual" family in the household of the way international. Now the lifestyle is atrocious. For us we were up at 5:30 and in the word for an hour. At first this was a little fun but quickly became a burden. Mandatory study time along a suggested list of approved topics. Then you had the daily lift list. Forced prayer in other words. Next was work, we all did the full twenty hours a week and pooled our money into a "household fund." I mean it was communal living at it's finest. We never had dough except what was given to us from the fund to buy something to drink or a small bite to eat while out at the malls. Plus we all tithed on the dough we made. We were mostly broke all the time for 6 months. Great training no? Then there were the meals. We simply ate bad the whole time because we could not afford to buy decent food. I remember distinctly one of our meals was wok fried, wilted brown lettuce. We got that anytime the lettuce was going bad. It was awful. Did I mention the sleep deprivation? Well, it starts setting in after a while. Mind you I was used to getting earlier than 5:30 and had done so for years. So I am not talking about getting up early. We got up at the crack of dawn and did not hit the mattresses until 11:30. Usually would not fall out til around 12:00 or so. 5 and half hours on average for 6 months REALLY takes a toll. We got sick a lot after the things wore on a bit. Must have been because of our unbelief? Now for the witnessing part. We were instructed to basically avoid people who needed excessive attention and told to find the devout. Basically we were scouting for gullible middle class people who had their stuff together and their wallets full. I found it strange to emphasis put on how very precious our time was and to not waste it. In the afternoon we went door to door. In the evening we lurked malls and any other store we needed to go to. I always felt so creepy. We were always sizing people up, looking for an angle to start talking to them and start "witnessing." Then we kept track of the numbers and were real proud of ourselves. Except this "witnessing" never had substance to it. It was never designed to help the person's needs. It was all designed to get them signed up for the way classes. That was our goal. Get them signed up for a class. Put a class together. The schedule is patterned so so there is a class running the last month of the 6 month tenure. That is really the only reason the way disciples are sent anywhere. Organize and run one class. And the class is so, so, emphasized. You know if people are in dire straights - sign them up for the class! It's the cure all. Ok, I m getting long winded - better stop now.

Man, that cat is a scum bag. He was oh so lovey when he was at the farm though. What a complete a$$!

Ding...ding...ding...ding...ding...ding...YOU ARE CORRECT! Tell her what she's won!

ROFL!! Guess they are,perhaps, lurkers?

ROFL!

Well, circular logic sets me off, thanks!

The circular logic is maddening. God who is spirit and devil spirits cannot, but because it is "your" spirit it can? Just makes no sense, and not saying you are trying to say it makes sense, either. I'm just reeling. So when a person is posessed is the devil spirit their's too, since ownership seems to be the criteria for communication with spirit? VeePee would have much better off plagarizing some star trek in this particular theory. Something like "The neuro-plasma centers in the full frontal lobotomized believer contain special diconium-peptides which enable communication with spirit once that spirit is in possession of the believer. Think of it as plugging headphones into a record player. There are many record players available but we want to be sure to plug our headphones into God's own special record player. Ok, I think I have this cult leader thing down. I'm off to start The OldSkool International! Say, is Pike Peak still cranking out those special Doctorate's degrees? I think I need to get me one. Dr. Oldskool, Your father in the....fill in pious sounding platitude here....!

Well, your proposed research project is not in agreement with proven lollipop research. The answer is three. Therefore, further research is not being accepted. Also, I have to disapprove of your rather free spirited leadership style. Please consider telling your subordinates exactly what blows at TWI since we are not encouraging free thought at this point. It seems to cost us too many leaves from the twig. When they fall off it lowers the ABS.

Oh ya. I forgot.

Ha! I see a spy in the midst already! DE N@varr0 - active WC in the great state of Alabamee. Of course could be there to save our souls - you know, call the lost sheep back to the flock...lol