OldSkool

The real crux of the issue is offshoots using this garbage as an excuse to keep the cash cow running and preservinvg their jobs. Of course offshoots and anyone still idolizing false prophet wierwille demand forgiveness from the victims...but you know what? Thats deplorable to expect a victim to extend forgiveness when the perpetrators dont ask for it or repent of their jaded actions. So shame on anyone putting this garbage on people who have been wronged as they arent the ones who need to ask for or extend forgiveness unless repentance occurs and perpetrators make amends...which has never happened to my knowledge when it comes to all things wierwille. BTW - God himself doesnt forgive without repentance...we are to be followers of God. What we are told to do is give place to wrath and let God settle the account, which he will.

Figured folks would appreciate my humor. Think its time for me to be moving onwards. Peace.

Complete imagination here. God is not limited in anyway, but go ahead...

Just reading along and thanks! Cause Ive never heard the analogy.

I think the only one surprised by outright contradictions in wierwille's theology is mike, who tries with all his might to "unsee" them and rationalize reality away to make room for wierwille: the self-help pseudo christian who favored gnostic and other occultish doctrines.

But can you do the renewed robot?

We are in a realm where God uses many forms of communication to impress his will on us. Ranging from the stars, to written manuscripts, oral tradition, etc. But yes, God has done as you say and provided Moses tables of stone with the mosaic Law inscribed thereon. The errors of men do not nullify God or his scriptures. Exodus 34:1 And the LORD said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were in the first tables, which thou brakest.

No doubt, and it's very mutual, and thanks! Actually, I had very little faith if any at all when I was drunk. That was about a 6 year period or more really. My faith rekindled when I dropped to my knees asking God for his help with a sincere and humble heart. My life has not been the same since.

Perhaps its the differnce between a faith based view and non-faith based view? Personally, Im ok with whatever anyone wants to believe, but of course Im always ready to explain the reasons for my faith but not everyone wants to hear that. Rock on!

Theres copious evidence that people have corrupted manuscripts and such....but why do you think God has to produce one ancient manuscript to rule them all in order for the Bible to be legitimate? The KJV committee utilized 5000 or so texts from the Byzantine line of texts and the Textus Receptus agrees with these manuscripts nearly 99%. So God chose many manuscripts for comparison and accuracy. I wont derail this topic any further with this off topic post but Im more than happy to discuss what Ive learned on the subject in another thread. Peace! Older is not more reliable: https://www.kjvtoday.com/arent-older-manuscripts-more-reliable/

Its a relevant point for certain. God clearly states I am holy so be ye holy. He lays out multiple qualifications for ministers in his scripture that sets a high bar of ethical behavior that victor paul wierwille clearly did not live at all, since he was a drunken, sexual predator, and plagairist. So God almighty, with whom it is impossible for God to lie, violates his own written Word to teach victor paul wierwille. He didnt even violate scripture for his own Son, Jesus Christ but had him fulfill the law and redeem mankind where Jesus Christ fulfilled the minutest detail of the Mosaic law: but he made an exception for Victor Paul Wierwille?....complete bullshonta.

How many realms are there anyway? spiritual realm, physical realm, emotional realm, pflappy realm, colateral damage realm, Rogaine realm, if it dont fit you must acquit realm...personally I think its a word thats just overused by you wierwilleites to try and sound like you know what your talking about...

Im thinking a lot of both.

Well he's forgotten what we were taught and drifted away from the fundamentals...remember?

You talking about a valid way to work scriptures and you dont even respect the difference between does not and impossible...thats the point with scripture that every jot and tittle is vital...or did you forget that from pflappy...maybe had you been paying attention and not drifted away from what we were taught...maybe thats why you dont know the difference between a cloak and a book case.

Nah, I confronted them to their faces and fought em for two years until I moved with severance pay. So no, I didnt cower when push came to shove but went toe to toe.

Right because we seek you out and make you come here spouting off all the non-sensical concepts, non-Biblical concepts you try and mash into scripture. Its called a discussion, you don't get to talk down to peole around here and expect us not to respond and what you post will be put to scrutiny. Thats why I post here as well, I want my ideas put to scrutiny. Obviously you cannot handle that though.

I dont see jeering and chatter I saw you completely shut down because you were confronted with uncomfortable truths that you are smart enough to recognize but deluded enough to rationalize them away. Then of course you turn to insults when you do snap out of it, and a very arrogant condescending tone and choice of words. The adversary is everywhere huh....

Respect for scripture to not change even one word if possible. Is this a foreign concept to you?

In fact your the one avoiding an actual discussion...really letting that agape shine through there buddy.

Yet you ignore the rather obvious points I brought into the conversation.

Oh...yah....thanks...was def. cornfused...malakas manylasetsy..mogadishu

Hevrews 6:18 That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, Scripture does not state that God DOES not lie, indicating that he could actually do so. Scripture says it's IMPOSSIBLE for God to lie...what happened to every jot and tittle? You expect to be taken seriously and you care not to quote God's matchless Word accurately?

The Word of God contains detailed on evil fallen angels, demonic spirits, etc. Since God details the adversaries kingdom, methods, motivations, etc in his Word...is Satan's rebellion Gods will as well? God's Word contains lots of information that is contrary to his will.