OldSkool

How could they thinking that Christ is absent! ROFLMAO!!

They are too busy being arrogant about all they think they know to have time for love, or to even know what it is.

Rings true for me, great job and thanks!

This may be a little - But I don't think any of us need to go out an convert Christians away from their beliefs. Where the hell did we ever get the idea we need to convert Christians to a more "accurate" (which is not more accurate) form of "Christianity?" Bingo - the way international. In the book of Acts, largely with few exceptions, we see people growing in understanding and relationship with the Lord without someone coming along and telling them how inaccurately wrong they are. I don't even get that impression from Priscilla / Aquilla and Apollos when they taught him. Sounds like to me they had something to teach and laid it out there. Relationship with fellow Christians comes to mind. Everyone has a psalm, doctrine, etc. Now, with that said there are doctrines in the way international that are ungodly, and binding to the one holding the beliefs, and need to be dumped. An example is the law of believing. I suffered a lot of mental and emotional damage at the hands of that lie when my child was born with health problems. Why? Obviously, if you follow that teaching, it was my fault for believing to bring it on myself, or not having the believing to protect us from it in the first place. Repudiating that garbage has allowed me to quit condemning myself and cope with life, gaining peace in this situation so my wife and I can be the best parents for our child.

Well, it's been good dialog. Frau never struck me as being that smart. Educated yes, smart no. Is that a conundrum? Anyways. Suffice it to say no matter what they know they are utterly evil.

Oh, let's not forget "Wash My Feet in The Blood of The Wicked" I was at the 98 advanced class when they debuted it for others besides way corps. Everyone went nuts with applause.

It is you...ROFL!

That's typical with them. Do as I say and not as I do. Silly example. I have seen Rosalie and Donna (at different times) driving the wrong way on their posted directional streets in the way woods. Coming out of the way woods, going the wrong way to drive into the PWA circle drive so they can get to the next meeting. Now let you or I do that very same thing and be spotted by one of those two. They would personally make sure we were raked over the coals so we were NEVER were in such a hurry again.

Oh, they have that disaster in the PWA now, where they shake hands during the advanced class. Forgot the name of the room. Upstairs on the left.

I start having flashbacks sometimes.

I make no defense for them. It's that the system they teach has a way of blinding followers to the obvious. How many times have we posted on GSC how we were deceived with this stuff at one point and felt stupid for not seeing it. Personally, I think VeePee knew what he was doing, numbed out his conscience with Drambuie, and justified his lusts and ego with scripture and half truths. Now what do cults do? They follow a central figure blindly. The Forehead was that central figure after VeePee and now it's Frau Q-tip. Only problem with Frau is she is talentless and bland. So, she points back at VeePee and puppeteers from the background. But from my experiences working for them, and getting a glimpse at the inner workings of this thing these guys actually believe they are doing God's word and will. Right to the point of ruining someone's life by marking and avoiding someone who totally lives for the way international. Does this excuse them? No - it places them in greater condemnation because COUNTLESS people have told them of their errors, and I am one of the countless. So the sickness of these people is they lie under oath, manipulate followers, bind heavy burdens on others backs, make laws and policies, ignore Christ the living head of the Church, horde money mindlessly, all the while thinking they are running the body of Christ on earth as da MOGFODAT / HOGFODAT. As I said personally I would rather say they know they are screwing their followers, it makes for better reading. But in all honesty I cannot and I endeavor to be as honest as possible in recounting my experiences on GSC. I spent a lot of time working for them and I really believe they are delusional. Delusions of grandeur - megalomaniacs. In that perhaps I am deluded. And please don't think I am defending them, just recounting things the best I know. Also, please don't think I am arguing with you guys either cause that is not my intention.

Oh, no doubt I know she is a liar and evidence alludes to her knowing about Craig years before 1998. I think she believes she is doing those things to save "Gawd's Ministry." That's my point. I'm not saying that she isn't a heartless liar.

My guess is many of use were hurt by the system they promote. It's just easier to see them with fangs sometimes. Personally, I would rather think they are doing what they do on purpose. Guess this is something we can only speculate about. Personally, I don't see how they can do what they do - but I really think they are past feeling.

Yes and no. The BRC is loaded with crosses and they say they leave it for historical purposes to help remember where VeePee lead us out from, or some such drivel. I believe images of Jesus are the same....I seem to remember religious imagery of Jesus floating around the place. Bolsh, was that in the Founders Room in founders hall?

Perhaps I'm wrong, but my dealings with the BOD led me to think they really think they are working for God and carrying out his will to the letter.

They call that "Being not unequally yoked with unbelievers."

VeePee was a plagarist VeePee was a drunk VeePee was an adulterer VeePee was a sexual predator VeePee was someone who used people up and discarded them when he was finished And the list could go on!

And they've paid the price. There aren't enough corps to go around these days. Personally, I love it - maybe they can make some more demands on the burdened few. The way international is responsible for it's own attrition and they are too stoopid to change.

Good lord, that's cold. Their products all suck, they have to browbeat and coerce established followers to keep their subscriptions up, goto the service when available, attend classes, witness, and just about everything. Why? Because it all sucks.

Sh31l@ H1r$hf13ld has likely taken him under her wing and got him schooled up to sound like he knows what he is doing. She is an actual Realtor and she also got him going in Mona-Vie.

That phrase infuriates me. So these peons leaders in the cornfield make unreasonable demands on people and then expect God is overing overhead like a cruel taskmaster expecting we just "believe" him bigger - idiots. A person either has faith, trust in God or not. They make it sound like there are countless degrees of believing and of course there is always more to be had. Idiots..Ok, finished griping now.

ROFL!!! Love it. I agree, i would rather the con-man and his con not be clothed in biblical garb.

Oh, I think that they believe that they are totally right with God. Crazy, huh?

That is as interesting as the two natures in the child of God as detailed in Romans and other Pauline epistles. Only in the case of the way international there is only allusion to the new nature. The real new nature would never produce such rancid fruit. I respond this way because that is what they chalk it up to. Really good at lying to themselves = renewed mind, whereas, Those that aren't = Un-renewed minds. So true. That is an excellent summation of the morons that run the way international. If I heard "well, what did we do last year" once, I heard it a million times. And I heard it not from subordinates or even equals in the hierarchy but from my director, who was as clueless as could be. Yet, the same inept director, da pineapple wannabe, told me EMPHATICALLY that there is YEARS OF ACCUMULATED WISDOM at the director level. Needless to say I was unimpressed. The inner circle is exactly as you say, and I can attest to their lack of feeling from first hand dealings that resulted in my eventual departure from the way international. And the ironic part is they have faded into irrelevance. They have squandered so many able people that they are left with null. Whereas they once had expendable thousands they now have a few hundred and many of them simply will not do what the directors want. During placements my last year they so wanted a former big shot to move into a limb position from his then current branch, and he simple would not. Pssst.....hey Rosie....maybe you shouldn't have called him out as an "Old style, sit and wait type of leader, who would sit and wait by the phone to see what was needed next" in the late 90's ...eh? Dumb-a$$. Consider it poetic justice.

Ya, ditto on the doctrine. My Mom bailed on the way international just as I did but refuses to purge the errors. Chalks it up to human deficiencies, but the werd is basically correct....RIIIGHT! About the other in-law. Sad, very sad, but it's their loss. Really, I mean that. You guys can fill the void when you need to just don't let it make you think you cannot!