OldSkool

I have often wondered if that incident was related to what happened to D3@n.

I'm not sure about the photo - pawtucket may know? Sharon is on the left and Janet on the right. Also, someone in the know (who will remain confidential) messaged me to let me know that they are very much a couple, still live together, and have matching gold bands they wear on their ring fingers. In other words they are obviously a lesbian couple that Rosie is very close with.

Multi Services Personnel. MSP started long ago and was intended to be the support department that could freely move man power as needed to add extra support when departments were strained due to events and such. Currently, they handle all the furniture moving for staff and office moves, as well as pest control. Which brings us to your second question: He was there exterminating insects.

Well, let's see...I'm posting this because the way international ruined people's lives over the least suspicion of people being homosexual. It is well documented here on GSC, the search function will yield an abundant harvest. These lovely ladies are Sharon Crowther and Janet Myracle. source: http://www.greasespotcafe.com/main2/component/option,com_zoom/Itemid,52/page,view/catid,1/PageNo,2/key,17/hit,1/ I am sure I will leave out some details on these two but Janet and Sharon were both way corps and were on staff at HQ in the late 90s. They shared the one bedroom basement apartment in Rosalie Rivenbark's basement. A former staffer who worked in MSP was in their apartment as part of his staff job and noted there was only one bed in the apartment. He was very upset over it and reported it to his president's cabinet at the time, D3@n S@il3r who was livid. He brought it up with Rosie and NOTHING ever came of it. Mind you during this same time people were dropped from active corps at the very suspicion of being homosexual and here we have two ladies, one of them (Janet Myracle) a "former" lesbian who was "delivered" from being a lesbian by the way international. They shared a bed in a one bedroom apartment in Rosalie's basement. (I digress) Around 1999, Janet and Sharon received an assignment TOGETHER, coordinating a branch in Charleston, SC. From what I hear, these two blew in to town and accused many, if not all of the single woman in the branch of being lesbians and unjustly "smoked a few women out of the closet" and basically wreaked havoc on this poor branch. Apparently, Janet and Sharon left the way international in the middle of a foundational class they were running, dropped off all the class materials on their leadership's doorstep in the middle of the afternoon when no one was home. Naturally, their leadership had to go finish the class (Surprise!) and explain to the higher ups what happened to Janet and Sharon, etc. Craig Martindale marked and avoided them and of course they lost their corps status, etc. This was around the year 2000. O.k., fast forward a couple years, Craig is fired, etc, I think it was around 2003 or 2004 sometime. Anyways. At the noon meal one day, Rosalie gets up and shares a mark and avoid story that turned out for the best. She did not say who it was until the very end of the stowry - yep, it was Janet and Sharon and they were welcomed back into the way international after being marked and avoided. Rosie the merciful. Their corps status was not reinstated, but once again it seems that Janet was poster child for the way international again. (Im getting all choked up over here... ) Oh it gets better. An old friend of mine used to coordinate the Charleston, SC branch. Rosalie would vacation with these two, specifically going there to see them. I have heard this had happened as many as 2 to 3 times. Present day, I am not sure what became of Janet and Sharon. I do understand they are no longer a couple, roommates or whatever they were. They have separate addresses now. Anyhow, I thought I would throw this out there as an update and also to see what else we can learn about this situation. Personally, I am not concerned with people's sexual orientation. I am concerned with a group that has persecuted people for the least suspicion of being homosexual and all the while it appears the current president lives some sort of alternate lifestyle and is supportive of others who do as well.

Mrs. Wierwille's book, Born Again to Serve, was pieced together from notes in "Historical." Historical is basically a room in the OSC where books for the junk table, memorabilia, and other odds and ends are kept. She used her journal as well that she had kept for years. The book reflects the source. She had been working on a follow up book but fell ill and passed away soon after.

Well, if it is, (and it sure seems to be) it sure shatters Victor Paul Wierwille's version of things.

Oh, you can count on innies lurking GSC in their spare time.

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Warmer?

One of these?

As far as I know they give the donations to no one, but horde it away. Keep in mind that what they do with the donations is highly confidential. Don't most groups keep that info public? What we know seems to come from the state of Arizona where they file reports. I imagine the reports are vague and may have significant details left out but they at least offer a snap shot. http://starpas.azcc.gov/scripts/cgiip.exe/WService=wsbroker1/names-detail.p?name-id=F00256060&type=CORPORATION Scroll down to the bottom of the page. 2008 had a detailed report while 2009 did not. It at least gives insight into a very secretive aspect of the way international. One would think transparency would be expected, but in the way international confidentiality rules the day and most followers accept it as necessary.

OMG! I forgot all about those session reviews. Good lord, did she think she was addressing preschoolers? And the bug eyes! She made me extremely uncomfortable during every session review. He is a shell of a man. His entire existence is dedicated to doing whatever Rosalie asks of him. He even did a way corps teaching several years ago on saying yes to leadership's requests. It was a terrible teaching that was un-biblical. Say yes at all costs, be a sold out yes man, or in his case a "yes ma'am." Disgusting.

It's definitely funny, especially because the in-residence way corps are supposed to be so stupid until they graduate. Victor Paul Wierwille should have learned how to cover his tracks better than he did. Really, it shows how pathetic VPW attempts to make himself look like the man of God really are. In reality he seems to have spent most of his time reteaching other's works as if he figured it out that morning in his personal studies.

Welcome to GSC, Beguiled! Thanks for posting your story.

The way Vicster taught sonship rights is twisted. Basically, IMO, to follow VPW's teachings basically tells a person to approach God with an entitlement mindset, an attitude of demanding what is rightfully yours instead of asking God for help and what you need and also what His will is in a particular situation.

A friend recommended the Welsch book and shortly afterwards I started into the tapes. So really it was quite unintentional on my part but I could not believe how much of that book was passed off as wierwille's work. I just chalked it up to coincidence at the time since they were teaching from the same book - Romans. Since I have come to learn VPW has a lengthy history of plagiarism it stands to reason that he worked through Welsch's book and then retaught it.

I'm not familiar with these particular tapes. However, when I was in-residence the U of L tapes were still in the gunnison library (they were pulled a couple years later.) I worked through the Romans tapes at the same time I worked through "The Just and The Justifier" by Charles Welsch. Wierwille taught that book almost word for word and gave the impression that it was his working of the word he was teaching. Ripoff artist. This review sums up both the book, and thus wierwille's U of L teachings on Romans. http://www.tftmin.org/rgg/Just_and_Justifier.htm This sounds about typical.

Craig Martindale pulled all the tapes. Hopefully someone will remember why.

This is Rupp's hero...from one wanna be dictator admiring another... Thus the nickname, the pineapple.

And that is Rosalie and Donna for you....stupid through and through.

Where was your believing? :biglaugh:

And that is one if the biggest reason, IMO, they can't get people to take that POS of a class. Maybe they can throw a few more "requisites" on that stupid class so less people will take it.

Looks like some kind of sea monster.

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