OldSkool

Subservience to Rosalie.

Mmmm....those things are NOT taught by the way international.

Mmmm....no. Higher learning is laughable in this context. And they made so much over having degree granting status with the state of Colorado, only to learn that the degree isn't even recognized by the state that grants the status. More smoke and mirrors.

It always seemed like a prison camp with nice trappings when I was there as IRWC. Vacation spot? Ha!

Love ya!

Good point. But where in the bible do we see the need for organizations? (not organization, but non-profit corporate entities that people are pressured into swearing their allegiance) I know you are not advocating this, and perhaps this belongs in doctrinal. But the biggest hurdle I face re-involving myself with any type of group is overcoming my disdain for the "organization." To me, modern Christianity places an inordinate value on the organization - even placing the organization between the Christian and Christ.

I understand, for one reason or another, LCM got rid of a lot of classes during his dark reign. I've been told that sometimes it had to do with who taught the material. Apparently, when his foes received the bum's rush (or left of their own accord) he would pull the material. I'm not saying that happened with this particular class. I just find it curios that between LCM, and Rosalie they have managed to decimate anything that would give appeal to their draconian system. It's like they went through and removed all the bait and left the hooks bare. But, agai, conjecture on my part as well.

Thanks for the update. Dollar to a dime those are rehashed classes that have been "corrected" through president's and way publications.

No, they used to teach you can "discipline" it out of a child with the rod. (wooden spoon)

I could give you some jive about how the eastern mind is so different from the western mind in that it relies heavily on pictorial representation and how the western mind is very literal but, truthfully, I really don't know.

with honors!

Last I knew they kept a ghost staff at Gunnison. When I was there department and Sunday morning fellowships were MANDATORY as was the STS hook up.

Mmm...I wonder if Ohio is interested to learn there is a school accredited in Colorado running operations in it's borders? Or perhaps none of it matters.?

That occurred to me as well. Obviously they are pushing the envelope? Perhaps someone would care to make some phone calls? Also, I love this line from CO site: Obviously, if the issuing institution state does not recognize the diploma then it's worthless everywhere. Reciprocity being what it is and all. But I thought I would bring this to light since the way international calls themselves accredited and say that they have degree granting status. And verily they do. Only, what they issue is totally worthless and they neglect to tell people that on the way corps application. Liars.

Good lord, that must be the euphemism of the ages. Considering his granddaughter confirmed the "rumors" to me I would say it was well known that he was a sexual predator.

Well I did a little snooping around the interweb today. When I was in the way international I was told numerous times that the in-residence way corps program is accredited. Seems like they embellished their story quite a bit. Follow along below. Here is a link showing that the way international is accredited in Colorado. They are listed as Camp Gunnison, Inc. However, here's the comical portion of the accreditation. Follow the link http://highered.colorado.gov/Academics/Colleges/privateaccredited.asp I posted this earlier and wanted to repost it in this context.

Oh....wait, I know!

Ha! Yep the ole' huckster sure worked all four of them, didn't he?

To train brilliant ministers of the Lord Jesus Christ, equipped with energized ministries serving in the one true household of God as they mend the saint's nets according to the Word of God. Now, when you strip away all the cliches and way speak, it serves no purpose! All they do is administrate the way international's paper work, mouthpiece the cliches the directors need spewed, keep an eye on the believers, collect the money, and do exactly what Rosalie and Donna want accomplished. Oh, and most importantly network market the way international and peddle it's goods.

Practical Management is no longer taught and was discontinued sometime ago. I read through the syllabus and it had some good pointers in it but was by no means a college level leadership course. I have personally worked with HA and there isn't too much going on there. I have never heard of Leadership Principles of Jesus Christ. There have been so many classes discontinued over the years for one reason or another. It is no longer taught either. Sounds like it would have been a good class based on the title.

Well, what little I know on the inner workings. The way international keeps some form of operating license / accreditation with the state of Colorado, where requirements are VERY lax. They make the students take the way of abundance class series multiple times throughout the year in order to meet minimum hours requirements required by the state. They cannot function solely out of the state of Ohio because the standards are way higher than Colorado. With Universities like Ohio State, and university of Cincinnati there is a lot of sunshine on any type of college operating in Ohio. So what does the way international do? They keep their "college" based out of Colorado and have the students living in Ohio where the in-residence way corps currently are training. They keep appearances, so to speak, by doing just enough out of Gunnison to keep the state happy. Lead for example. In other words they are doing a shell game on the states of Colorado and Ohio. Their college is not legitimate. They do think they are exempt from that and a lot more.

Mmmm....stumped me with that one. And that is absolutely essential to so many facets in life.

One of the biggest shockers for me when I was in-residence way corps was the total lack of leadership training. IRWC has been touted as the greatest leadership training in the whole world. I was a paid manager / leader before going into the way corps. So you can imagine my surprise when management / leadership skills were not taught. Of course they had us read several Dale Carnegie books, but let's get real - I could have read those on my own. Lacking from the program was: - scope (understanding the big picture) - resource management - time management - milestones / deadlines I kept the categories succinct but under each listed much could be expounded. And the way corps like to sneer at "non-corps", as quoted from a post Oakspear made earlier. There was much more lacking but I have made the point well enough, hopefully.

Fear not, I was dealt it enough to make up for it never landing in your hand.

Ha! The gig is up Rosie. All of the advertisements, especially the DVD, were outright lies. None of them showed what being on staff is really like. Of the sweet smell of lost credibility. Great job, Rosie and Donna! you dorks are batting a thousand!