OldSkool

Well, TWI really screws up Romans in a big way. But the idea of salvation being a free gift is from Romans and is based on the logic that since many were made sinners by the offense of one man (Adam) then in the same way many shall be made righteous by what Jesus Christ did. So not to shoot way off into doctrinal. VPW got his university of life teachings from Charles Welch book The Just and The Justifier. It's a good read that really breaks down Romans. Welch was an understudy of Bullinger for what that's worth. And ya, people like those at the top of TWI who use grace as a license to sin will pay for that. Folks like Stalin and his ilk are something Christ will have to deal with at the judgments. Frankly, I am baffled by things as well. reason for edit: misspelled book

Woot!

My very first day in-residence. My Candidate and Apprentice years were spent in blissful ignorance.

I cracked up when I found this pic. It is so heavily meshed up it's comical.

See, he was speaking Greek! Perhaps, this was VPW Greek name?

Lo shanta....

Nah, she is loaded with family money, and draws a meager salary from being an officer in TWI.

Oh the irony. Teach the word like it hasn't been taught since the first century using plagiarized content from many contemporary sources. Uploaded with ImageShack.us

I am not sure there is a lot of fireworks left. I have heard through the grapevine he admitted to what he did, has apologized, and still faces sentencing? Maybe someone can confirm so I am not spreading rumors.

Sound like they were just trying to emulate Vic's egotism.

quote:The internet is a strange place . . .

quote:Your chart also implies He's a she. Or that I am a she...depending one's perspective.

quote: Is it possible Johniam could suffer from Asperger's syndrome? Is it possible Johniam could suffers from As$pberger's syndrome?! Just a quick demo in what a person can do with the text tools provided with the forum board. Hey....check this... Is that amazing or what? And no, I am not trying to flame you on a personal level. Just having a little fun with words. quote: And no, I am not trying to flame you on a personal level. Just having a little fun with words. And of course poking fun at your trollish posting methods.

I was a relative new comer to the corps so was not around for Vic, or the forehead's either. However, I did spend a lot of time sneaking their old corps teaching's in-residence. With VPW there was a portion of the tapes that were actual bible teachings. But it usually seemed that a tangent was not far behind. Usually scolding the corps body for one thing or another. Craig was just horrible. He would publicly defame people who had just left or had been dropped from the corps, or da ministry. He would rant and rave about this and that, scream, yell, shoot way off into left field. I mean from what I heard those teachings would have made any dictator proud of him. Under Rosalie the teaching became a snore fest. Yelling would have been preferred. And following suit with the STS, teachers were assigned, read a transcript line by line - verbatim in a monotone voice, and the content was rehashed from "proven ministry research." In short, I used to loathe the though of the approaching corps mornings. At least Rosalie is so old that she cut the meetings to once a month or so. Rosalie the Merciful To answer your question. The teachings made no difference in my life and I did endeavor to apply what I could. IMHO - more empty promises and marketing to get people into the corps.

Heck yeah he knew. No way you can do any of that by accident.

Connect?....you mean like when I left "gawd's ministry" and was shunned by people I had known for several years?...

quote: entrenching tool.. How can I when it's entrenched?

:biglaugh:

quote:Dang spurrrts. Yeah quote: Maybe. quote:Maybe not. quote:Well, maybe it's a debul spurt thing Page 21 end quote: quote:Maybe. could be.

quote:Well, maybe it's a debul spurt thing. Dang spurrrts.

@Exie - not too many reasons to remember... I think it's safe to say that for the most part the hype surrounding being on staff is overblown. It's not that Rosalie has deviated from Victor Paul Wierwille's line of "you come on staff for spiritual growth" (or whatever - just paraphrasing.) She pulls the same punches. Weak in the knees and wonders why no one comes on staff. Dork.

Exie, unless he can prove otherwise, his purpose is get under our collective skin - as varied as that may be.

So wtf does Vince Finnegan's perspective have to do with your original topic? <_<

Ahh..he just told.

Only Johniam can tell.