OldSkool

They still do this dog and pony show today. Each year at the advanced class there was always something pointed out as the students went into the discerning of spirits sessions that was used to prove how mad the devil was for them teaching those sessions. The disturbance Du jour was usually thunderstorms. Yep, north western Ohio in the summer time. Thunderstorms ALL the time, every year without fail. BUT....when one happens along during the advanced class it's mad devil spirits! Of course if nothing happens at all then they remark about how great everyone's believing was to keep the adversary at bay.

Thanks. And remember that God is no respecter of persons, that is unless you have been appointed the MOGFODAT, in which case everything is one big exception. Really, that man was a crackpot.

It seems to me a recurring theme with Wierwille's stories is God made the exceptions for him only. God would never do the same exceptions for one of us plebes because Wierwille was here to teach us better. Race tracks and winning horses notwithstanding, why can't I go to the track and have God tell me the winner so I can learn word of wisdom? Oh, that's right our dear leader was afforded a special relationship with God so our dear leader could teach us so we don't have to go through what he did.

No doubt, and some do.

Word.

Dig that!

Haven't heard that exactly. But when I was an innie people seem to avoid this place because they tend to view the content through way goggles. "It's all one big attack of the adversary." That sort of illogic. However, many have no earthly idea what is actually posted here or that their revered "Dr." Wierwille was actually an abusive, sexual predator. I mean after all, shouldn't his victims just get over it? And they would never imagine his degree was from a mail order mill, or that he plagiarized his "research" from many other authors. Nope - Way goggles have the power of blinding people to the obvious truth that they just couldn't otherwise stomach. Then there are the ones who know right well (a.k.a. Rosie and Donna, and their ilk) and do all they can to suppress the truth. They have their reward. And for the record, I post anonymous because I do NOT want my real name associated with the way international on the internet in anyway, shape or, form. Those who know me and my situation know exactly who I am, including WAYGB and Rosalie.

Exactly! And that is one of my biggest gripes with the way international and subsequent offshoots. All they do in the end is further their own organizations and do it in God's name only.

I conjured up the pick of the week crap video again.

They played off Pick of the Week like they were selected out of a tight race or something. Come to find out I heard it was a paid infomercial.

I know, just wanted to give you a hard time.

hehe....who you callin a newbie... :anim-smile: j/k Sis --- thanks!

I know for sure TLTF is doing just that, I think the call them Worldwide Webinars Fellowships, and they happen monthly.

Thanks Twinky!

http://familytables.org/ Oh snap! HQ leaned on them?

Bingo!!

The internet has absolutely smashed the way international. Yet, Rosalie considers the internet "dirty communication." Whatever that is in this context? She is the blind leading a lot of folks who can see but have been trained to "go down with the ship." And so they are. Most of what is left is long standing folks who endured the POOP / fog years, Martindale's purges that would have made Stalin proud, the Allen lawsuit, and years of lame publications of drab, watered down, garbage that Rosalie and the gang have carefully sanitized. They are not growing. The advanced class, way disciple, and way corps numbers shout that from the rooftops. I for one am glad Rosie is so pigheaded and out of touch with reality to not consider how the internet has exposed the belly of the beast. All the while she has put YEARS into sanitizing The Teacher's sins away....except because of this pesky internet they just won't go away.

I forget when it was released, but it may have been after you left for greener pastures. It's still very much in print and offers a nice, sanitized version of the early years. Even though we see it contains damaging information on VPW because you just can't make his history not stink.

Well said.

I agree with you to a point. No doubt at first it is a shotgun approach, target everyone and anyone. But it's in the methods used to reel a person in that the victim is selected. Of course everyone has the best intentions. After being way disciple twice and going through the corps. We were taught how to reel people in. How to select our candidates according to criteria set before us by the board of directors. Modified somewhat, but I suspect the same criteria Wierwille used back in the beginning. Thanks, I really appreciate that - it means a lot. I have already dealt with that several times over at this stage of my recovery. I have been reading Losing the Way and am in chapter 7. I think the author does an excellent job in exposing the methods used against us from her own point of view.

And here is where I think the vulnerability is exposed. If you offer a differing point of view, question them, view them with doubt and stand your ground then they are out of there. On the other hand if a person buys their logic then the hook is slowly set. I remember so vividly being coached (like a good Kirby salesman) how to identify who to work with. The meek, those who would listen, those who hunger and thirst after righteousness, etc. In other words those who are receptive and receptive only.

Certainly true. We came from all walks of life. But I tend to think that the way's methods for outreach intentionally target those who are most vulnerable to be drawn into a cult. So who does this little corn field cult target? and why?

I suspect the way international intentionally targets the vulnerable, those who have need of real help. I was in this position when I was first witnessed to. Struggling with cocaine, my life was a mess and I spent my time running the streets. Long about the time I wanted to change was when I decided I would give fellowship a try. Long story short. I was confronted with circular reasoning and absolute statements that denied critical thinking. Therefore, I let myself sink into way world and I gave my all for it's furtherance. So there I was, in my early twenties and in need of help to get my life on track. And there they were ready to take my under their wings, keep me in the safety of the household where the truth reigned supreme. In the end I was their slave. Working for pennies on the dollar, told where to live, what do, how to act, what to think - it was all or nothing. Sad thing was their all turned out to be nothing. Could it be that the ones who apply critical thinking to the way international's doctrines are not vulnerable? You know the one - the same ones we called worldly and possessed when they argued against the way's doctrines?

Well, not sure about your friend, but way productions have their wardrobe's approved by Rosalie and all their hair an makeup done by the same lady who has been at HQ since the earth cooled. What more do you expect from a highly micro managed group of minstrels where the "band leader" is not a musician and in her mid to late 70s by now. Lawrence Welk anyone?

HQ never found out.