OldSkool

Well, especially since their Fadder in der verd simply started a 501-c3 and declared the word inseparable from it.

Rosie was a former bootlicker for Craig. At least in public. Nah, not splitting hairs. In my expose of the way international I am more interested in giving an accurate account, and after 5 years out, my memory is fading a little. It really goes above God and not being able to separate him from the ministry, since he magnified his Word above His name. I know I am on repeat, but logic almost demands that conclusion. But, hey this is the way international. Who needs logic?

Amen to that!

That's almost worse since "God has magnified his Word above His name." And of course they use that verse to laud what they teach above God himself.

Ya, like helping those in need.

I remember hearing this from time to time. "You can't separate God and The Ministry." =======- Is this absolute insanity or what? Was this a Wierwille-ism? What's the history?

They see it as defending what's theirs. No matter what's "theirs" was taken from the ends of the earth.

She isn't a nice person.

I seem to remember talking about it around her b-day. But, hey, it's not like I have her birth certificate or anything.

I seem to remember she was 71 when I was at HQ and I have been gone for 5 years.

Considering the couple, any age is just gross.

Rosie is probably closer to 75 or older.

To say the least!!

Same here. Who the heck hangs a middle name like "Fox" on a kid? No wonder she's so messed up.

Word has it she has family money where they used to allow companies to harvest lumber off of their land down in New Bern, N.C.

It's dem spurrrts, dang nabbit! Now fork over $450.00 for the advanced class where you can learn all about it!

I didn't know she eloped but would not be a bit surprised to find out. I do know she is married with children. I will withhold the last name for privacy sake, but I can tell you that Donna hated it with a passion because it reminded her of believing in reverse . Poetic justice?

I know first hand that Tim hated the idea of going into the way corpse and had been propositioned so many, many times that he was offended at the very idea. I guess the idea of the super spiritual gene never took root in Tim. Thank God. The dude was alright with me.

When I was at HQ it quickly became apparent that these two were as close as two peas in a pod. My job allowed me to be all over the place. So what did I see? The Rosie and Donna show. Together as much as possible, Rosie leaving Donna's apartment in the middle of the afternoon, Donna at Rosie's house often and frequently. The two work together like husband and wife. They are the ones who really run the way international and the other so called directors act more as administrative assistants, gathering papers, giving rubber stamp approval where necessary. But under no means do the other directors do anything w/o Rosalie's direction. Which really means Rosalie and Donna. I will never forget during placements one year, we were on break. I came back in the room early and there was Rosie and Donna sitting in the corner together running down a list of names and "placing them" where they needed to move to in the coming year. I was close enough to over hear. They had no regard for their own process and it was sickening obvious that hypocrisy was rampant with those two. As for being a happy couple? It's the ultimate slap in the face to their ministry's followers. After purging countless suspected homosexuals from the ranks over the years and falsely accusing many people of being sympathizers, fantasizers, etc. They teach from the Bible that homosexuality is a sin and somehow count themselves above their own teachings. They not only give the appearance of a couple....well....if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....

To quote Chockful Several points are new to me. I would love to learn more.

And to think I was going to say .... of all things evil .... of all the fiery darts ... I was going to say .... "Hi."

Possible that Wierwille happened to uncork his inner demon.

He so adored Wierwille that there was no reaching him, especially by the way living in wonderland accounts. I have heard from John Lynn that Wierwille ruined him and at one time he was alright. Shame, a real shame.

I have heard that first hand from people who were close to Craig when it started.

Perusing my Facebook page this morning and there happened across my wall a post from someone currently in TWI regarding a weight loss / nutrition program. So, I checked it out to see what it was about and.......BAM!.......you guessed it - another MLM scheme! And of course it was REALLY expensive to participate unless you sign up to become a distributor. My Lord I could count the MLM schemes I have run across in way land but I will spare you the boring list it would produce. So what makes these guys so prone to participate in multi level marketing schemes? - They are used to falling for the big fat claims? - TWI is at heart a MLM that has it's followers groomed for participation? - They are all so darned broke that following MLM schemes is one of the only outlets they have? - What else? - thoughts, comments, I would love to get a handle on this.