OldSkool

Well said, sir. Well said.

Oh my Lord. I had one of those and a custom pen set that was multi-colored so I could underline in color. It was highlighted, underlined, and notated so badly that it was dang near useless by the time I was done with it. It landed in a trash can along with all my class syllabus back in 2008. Never misssed any of it for a second even.

Ahhh...lots of gelatinous diconium peptides though.

Very cool post. Ill respond a little later as I wanna go over it in detail later this afternoon. thanks!!

Well, just my thinking here based on a few scriptures that I will draw from. So, the great mystery is the body of Christ comprised of jews and gentiles gathered and presented to God as one new man, and individually we give account and receive reward or suffer shame and loss depending on what we've done. Judgement is starts at the house of God and that's us. So, the rapture is taking us to the bema and to be forevermore changed. On earth the tribulation starts. When Christ comes to fight Armageddon we are with him and we help with his 1000 year reign. First thing happens at Christs 2nd coming (vs his previous appearing in the air) after beast, false prophet, etc are destroyed is the ressurecction of the just. Just a few thoughts. Please compare to scripture and lets go ahead and get out the demolition tools and see what happens...

Rapture or no we are likely to endure hard times and persecution in the near future. Scripture promises all who live godly will endure persecution on one level or another. I think you are a wise man either way. Like I say it took a lot of reading, studying, praying, meditating to get where I'm utterly convinced. Take your time and enjoy the process. I have plenty of other topics that I'm still working through and enjoying the process as wel, so it's just a fun part of us growing up into Christ love the discourse...I'll likely respond in more detail later cause...I'm doing some hardcore chilling atm...I'll be around a lil later.

Paul's gospel is in his writings. It's in the epistles the gathering/rapture is revealed/explained. I studied the topic in detail for close to two years before coming right back where I started. Rapture/resurrection of the just/1000 year reign on earth under Christ's rule/resurrection of the unjust. It's not beyond our knowledge, perhaps beyond our understanding as to what these events actually will mean or be like, but we do know about the various events from scripture. As to what folks should do? For me, I stake my life on scripture.

Gal 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. 2 Thess 2:3 Let no man deceiue you by any meanes: for that day shall not come, except there come a departing first, and that that man of sinne be disclosed, euen the sonne of perdition, All I have to offer is clear scripture on the subject. Personally, I believe what is written over commentaries, scholars, experts, intellectuals, etc.

MogaShontu!

No it wasnt. Its been part of Romans since it was written by Paul.

I don't. And it's fine if we see things differently.

Excuse me. Adam. God instituted marriage so Im sure they werent single. Is God incapable of all things? Is he a myth?

Eve never had a renewed mind. She was perfect when she was created and experienced corruption when she and her husband disobeyed God. Renewing of the mind is something entirely new that comes with the new nature, which is God's answer to our corruption. Renewing of one's mind is a concept in the Church epistles, thus belonging in the category of the great mystery of God.

Ahhh....but do we know a Bishop?

Ive never known.

There ya go. Instead of one original, oldest manuscript we have thousands of manuscripts, which is better as noted in the quote you left T-Bone. Yet, wierwille has convinced people like Mike (and formerly myself) that the only reliable intrepretation is what wierwille says it is. God is perfectly able, capable, and has preserved his pure Word of God for those who want it. Wierwillism overthrows a person's faith in God's ability to effectually communicate himself, leaving them instead with all kinds of doubt as evidenced by mike's post.

Thats a really good point, Rocky. I think we see this in the parables taught by Jesus where the Kingdom of Heaven is likened unto.....and then the parable would contain lessons on God and his creation in ways that could be easily understood.

No sir, you are in error once again. Critical Greek Text: As you can see, from the fourth century onwards the material base for establishing the text of the Greek New Testament is very good indeed. (OldSkool note: this dates the Critical Greek Text of Westcott and Hort based on Codex Vaticanus and Codex Sinaticus. Both highly suspect Alexandrian based texts that do not agree fully with the Textus Receptus) https://library.duke.edu/papyrus/texts/manuscripts.html Textus Reptus: https://textusreceptusbibles.com/What_is_the_Textus_Receptus Textus Receptus agrees with the earliest versions of the Bible: Pedangta (AD150) Old Latin Vulgate (AD157), the Italic Bible (AD157) etc https://textusreceptusbibles.com/Editorial/Erasmus

I forget which class I heard this little tibbit of information, I think thought it was either the intermediate class or the old DTA?... Anywho....The way international teaches the Spirit of God is the light of God in concretion. Anyone know where the heck this came from? Or is this another of VPW vain imaginings?

Which is where a lot of the confusion comes in because various theologies don't respect the sign posts in scripture so to speak. Then theres the thing with Christianity believing that Jesus is God the Son and all knowing like God Almighty. While, Christ has been elevated, glorfied into something I don't comprehend at this time, he is part of the Godhead...whatever that is, I do not think he is God though. Same ole reasons: Christ was tempted with evil, isn't all knowing, scripture calls him a man, etc. But I do think there is a lot more to understand about his divine nature coming from God, etc.

Yes. God gave the great mystery to Jesus Christ who taught it to Paul. The gahering, rapture, whatever..is a mystery within a mystery.

I dunno Mike, Ive shown you reams of scripture on various topics you reject in favor of wierwille's trash plagairaized book and class: PFLAP. So who doesnt belive the Bible? Hopefully you are including yourself in that category.

New Jerusalem Mercantile Exchange.

Yeah...just like that only completely different....