OldSkool

Penworks, i really appreciate your point of view. I came along nearly 20 years after VPW. Im still haunted by that shell of an individual

I know. Somethings u cant unsee.

I really dont think JYDL has the balls. He knows who still runs things. As long as Donna is still alive, in my opinion, there will only be status quo.

So true.

Great post. U (and so many others here) bring so much insight to those who sold their lives to this cult. Ty.

Wow. Thats deep. Ty.

Sure appreciate your post. Thx.

I found Mrs Wierwile after she fell just outside the EOB. I helped dig her grave and was a pallbearer. She was senille as all get out. TWI gave her butt the boot for legal reasons. Lawyers have controlled TWI for years. Ever since Paul A ll3n busted their a$$. Like i say nothing but lies and coverup.

Gonna speak from my heart. I sold my honest soul to twi. Based on a lie that Craig Martindale was the man of god for our day and time. I hold no fault. Decieving and being deceived. I have learned to let my anger go. Let my words stand as a warning. TWI is a corrupt organization. That u can use God's Words to profit u only serves yourself. What was spoken was stolen. All i ever saw from 1999 to 2008 was a flat out coverup. Lies and a flat out coverup. How tf can u deny Craig Martindale. Donna? Really? U came to my house and told me I needed a break? Who tf are u. Btw i did walk in on Marsha n Melissa having a make out session in the EOB. Straight mouth to mouth. And how many times did i see u and Rosalie together. U at her house and her at yours. My house is clean. JYDL. Open your damn eyes. U think they groomed u for honesty sake? John L!nder could sink this life raft at any time. And u think Donna's not controlling things? I saw first hand at placements 2007 Donna and Rosalie huddled up on break deciding Way Corps assignments. Our lives are worth more. But this one thing i can say. I gave my all heart and soul. Open and honestly. Thank u for opening my eyes. U can't hide the truth.

That man truly was the center of his own universe.

Thanks!!!! Merry Christmas!!

These time line posts have been really insightful for me in understanding twi history with what I witnessed during my short run at hq. I've been quietly lurking but will add a few points post lcm, 2000 to 2008 soon. Thanks chockful, skyrider, et al.

I agree. That old bag is quite the novelty. Lol!

Oh, now I see, says the blindman. http://www.faithwriters.com/member-profile.php?id=67716

Omg, that's how that pathetic worm rose to prominence? Rupp called me to his office one sunny morning during an advanced class at hq. I was accused of not being on top of my spiritual responsibilities. He decided to try the intimidation route and yelled at me up one side and down the other. in order to avoid kicking the crap outta him on the spot, I excused myself. I drove out to a remote part of twi's property where I consulted with my ex-wife, and a couple close friends. I calmed down quite a bit. I called Rupp back and requested a meeting, he accepted. After going back to his office I let him know to never raise his voice to me or talk to me in such a disrespectful manner, in no uncertain terms. I was not nice and neither did I speak in a quiet tone. The worm was afraid and it showed in his eyes and body language. Once they lose their edge intimidating those they try to control, they have nothing left.

You're right, there is no difference. Same dead tree, same rotted roots. Any differences are trivial in my experiences. Example: Under LCM it was envogue to be as nasty as you could towards those who caused waves. Under RosaLIE folks are so loving and syrupy sweet. At least at first, then the fangs come out. Same evil, different trappings. My perspective anyway.

Never had one of those, see what I missed?

Not that my experiences in the way international are the end all be all cuz they arent. it's just mind boggling in some respects to look back over my relatively short time involved with twi and realize the corruption and cover up I witnessed. Great posts guys, very informative.

Yw! penworks, I sent a message via contact page. waysider, hope all is well my friend!

Following is a link to Way back machine Internet archive. No pun intended...lol Anyway, until the document section is up n running, many pertinent way international, and other related docs can be found here, as well as a snapshot of GSC before the upgrades. https://web.archive.org/web/20160112153054/http://www.greasespotcafe.com/main2/

Yw, glad you asked!

I don't think so, I've been waiting too.

I haven't seen them in 8 years, I assume she still is.

When I was way corps I had the notion that I could change the way international from within. I had way corps friends that figured that once rosalie died off they would be in a position to change the way international. I've come to realize that I was as deluded as my friends and anyone else who thinks they can step in and change twi for the better. God does not need the way international, God did not send Victor Paul wierwille to start the way international, Craig martindale followed vpw example and got the way international brought up on RICO (and other) charges via a lawsuit. Yes, that's right, the way international was, is, and will always be a corrupt organization. Change twi? Anyone with the idea that they can change it from within is deluded. Why? Because Rosalie, Donna Martindale, and their ilk has changed the way international from within. They have managed to bring about a thin veneer of legitimacy by whitewashing Victor Paul wierwille from a drunken plagarizing sex predator con man to a great man of god. Rosalie has set leadership in place that will stay the course of the direction forced on twi by their lawyers during the Allen lawsuit. Jean Yves DeLisle is the tip of the iceburg. Anyone with half a backbone has been purged, reassigned where they can do no harm to the current agenda, or quit walking away with some semblance of integrity. A few post here, telling what they witnessed. The Way international is a corrupt organization and a cult. In spite of the lie that the board of directors works together with a separate group of appointed officers, two people made all the major decisions. Twi was run by rosalie rivenbark and donna martindale. Hands down. I started out as a young follower of the way international who would have believed anything, and done anything the way international told me. Four years after joining the ranks, I found myself as candidate way corps in Baton Rouge LA. This was my first real exposure to the evil practices of those who run the way international. It was during this time the Allen lawsuit forced Craig martindale to admit that him and F3rn All3n had a "consensual" affair. I should have ran right then. I didnt, I thought the Adversary was mounting yet another attack on the man of god, and God's ministry. I was wrong. During the next eight years I found myself constantly in positions to witness first hand the way international's massive cover up in response to being brought up on RICO, and other charges. It would be interesting to put together a loose time line on the rise, fall and cover up of twi. Assuming I haven't overlooked one. I'll type more later, me n my fiancee are about to enjoy a night on the town. Enuff twi for me atm ;)

They have three daughters, all very pretty and talented. Shelly was a very sweet woman.