OldSkool

Still crazy to me how many people i know from the list of dissenters and their checkered pasts. Its a whos who list to boot. Two grandaughters of ole VPW, Don and Wanda's daughters. Of course Moynihans, Horneys, Sheltons. Frederick was so far up the foodchain he was investing TWI's money in mutual funds and such. Not to mention he had a major hand in many legal issues. Several of these folks were named in the Allen lawsuit as co-conspirators with Craig Martindale. At least one (if not more) of the women in the list were named as "procuress" (in the Allen lawsuit) to Martindale in order to make arrangements for Craig Martindale to be alone with his victims, helping coerce said victims into having sex with the man of god, Lloyd Craig Martindale. There's a pianist/flutist who put out a cd for TWI that was played during tithe collections, before classes, breaks, etc - quite talented btw. My point is this: Rosalie literally bit off her nose to spite her face. These are people who can tell where the figurative bodies are buried, people with multi levels of serious talent, people with cult followings in the hundreds. It really goes to show how utterly inept Rosalie is as a leader. She marked and avoided so many of her top tier leaders, and those with serious talent and not to mention those who could unveil the sins of reverend sexual predator himself, Craig Martindale. This is far from over. Anywho, my two cents.

Nah...they wont. Even with way corps who sent in letters of concern their responses were never straight forward. Tactics, such as different meetings with husband and wife seperated one at each meeting, et al have taken its toll. Its either TWIs way or the highway. TWI is losing through attrition. For the way corp they do fire/MA TWI loses even more followers than they can count because many follow the deposed leaders. There is a huge undertow pulling many away from TWI.

Guess no response?

Posting to see if anyone has the latest on revival and restoration or if the way international has marked and avoided what was left of the way corps....lol....peace!!

Awesome, thanks!!

Just a quick question for those who were around at the time. Who developed JCOPS? Wierwille? Research Staff? Others involved? Thanks in advance!

Im so happy the deep sixed the rock just before i became involved in twi in 96. Funny thing is in todays world twi would have to shell over big $$ to do a roa due to layers of safety regulations. Yep right down to the tents. Big top tents have to be installed and anchored to the ground properly. So much so there are professional tent companies to handle the task. I know because twi had to hire out tent installation for hq based events such as the ac, ac specials etc. We all know that in all their horded millions they would never let that money go.

She is. I helped dig her grave and was a pall bearer.

Jeeeez. My goofy foot never made the conection between the book title and reality.....egads.

Interesting. VP seems like he would have excelled as a vacuum cleaner salesman. My father sold insurance many years ago. He once told me his sales team's mainstay catchphrase was "if u throw enough sheet against a wall some of it will stick." Well, this book appearantly didn't stick but perhaps paved the way for Lifelines. VP kept on throwing though and managed to find success selling his snake oil.

I threw up in my mouth reading the description....

Wow....i had no idea these "principals" were strung together so haphazardly. As others have noted, we were drilled in these, made to memorize them, memorize the retemories verses that came with them, etc. It was if God himself handed them to the vicster personally. Craig expanded them with a metric ton of redundant verbage, and now rozilla has reduced them back to third grade level.

#4 Simply cannot be made anything close to right. As way corps im supposed to practise believing to bring material abundance to me AND the ministry. But "the ministry" offers little to no help of it's "material abundance" to help anyone that has need, especially the way corps. Just give to the ministry...give some more.....and more.

God bless u aboundingly abundantly as u read this tremendously tremendous post. With the mighty way corps 46 prevailingly graduating this weekend i was blessed to see this wonderful picture of these 5 tremendous prevailing way corps principles. My question is how many times are they going to revise and rewrite the damned things? Prevail!

Thx Tbone!!

I used to do that all the time.

Lol...circular reasonong works because it works....

That Flickr link helped remind me why i left. Those plastic smiles, arrogant posturing from the board of dolts, lame classes, did i mention fake smiles?, pics of The Overlook, etc. Oh....and they forgot the pics that show the true state of things...the ones where most sunday services only have the first couple rows filled, empty camp gunnison, etc. Hilarious post Chock!

Great post Skyrider. Jean Yves would have to resign and walk away. As president he isnt chairman of the board and reports to rosalie but is also a board member. Rosalie as vice president can attend all of jean yves meetings and is also the pres. cabinet coordinator. She is firmly in control even more so than before Rico and rnr stepped up to confront her. Twi is falling apart. They have lost/marked n avoided 20 or more clergy this year. So much for rise n expansion. The bod are like dogs devouring anyone not following rosie the pack leader.

Well, im sure he broke many, especially considering craig and his co conspirators simply followed what wierwille set in motion. Also, twi being 501c3, brings up private inurement. Vic and the gang spent donations on pwrsonal use like the money was given to them to burn.

Oops delete me please

I hauled all of Wierwolfs books, about 3000 total, to the city dump.

On another note, being caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air clearly means what it says and says what it means. Altitude cannot be ignored in the context. Mike, Wierwolfs books do not contain purposefully constructed grammer that contain esoteric secrets when worked further. The collaterals are a hodge podge collection of his early sermons, and of course a smattering of material taken from all over the place. Way publications, along with presidents publications have worked for years to smooth out error and contradiction. Surely, if vp writings were god breathed God would have worked in all these spirit filled editors to preserve every jot and tittle. Dont ya think?

Its not a concept thats hidden invics plagaraized writings. Just keep it simple. Read whats written. God doesnt want us ignorant of spiritual matters, remember? 1 Corinthians 13:12 12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

After playing along with Mike, id have to say no. Do not recomnend Wierwolfs book to others....lol