Billy G

It helped with harmony in my family!!

Probably worked with each other. HQ? What top leadership graduated under B&olck$l%? Anyways. I don't know what book of acts you read. I just read in Acts where the disciples prayed to go out and speak with more boldness. I also read where Paul got the right hand of fellowship from the leadership to go speak, i.e. to Witness!!!! love it. Makes me want to go witness right now!!! (if you brush your teeth really good it will get rid of the puke taste.)

Top leadership assignments huh. We probably know eachother

Again easy for you to take the negative viewpoint and easy for me to take the positive. I don't know if they got talked to about it or if they didn't and either do you. You know they could have gone for counseling about it for all we know. Thats how I was trained. I don't go barging into people lives. I make my life available to minister and when the door opens I can teach, help, guide. Where are your references in the book of acts? I don't see them. Many times teaching preceded healing and miracles or people just got taught and spoken to and believed with no sign or miracle. Maybe this needs to be moved to a doctrinal discussion.

Oh. I thought he was referring to a specific "look" as the product we pitch. Anyways... No records in the book of acts where people went witnessing? Don't really get your point. Acts 1:8; all the records of Paul's travels and preaching. The meaning of the word commonly translated Marturia means to testify. Speech is implied. You basically tell people what God has done for you. It is where we get the word martyr. Other words for signs (semion) and miracle (teras) also bear witness. I guess I don't get what your point is. Are you trying to say that The Way tells people to go witnessing with no scriptural backing?

Thanks for the open ears. Sorry I'm gonna keep the positive "high road" as you called it and assume the best. Nobody can know for sure except them and God what the heart's intention is. I'm not from California or Chicago but those individuals you refer to are the absolute best! They're Way Corps to the core and I love them for it!!!! (Did that just make you throw up in your mouth a little? hahahaha) And I do agree with you, they probably have been "counselled" to drop a few through the years and I personally don't think there is anything wrong with that but that's my opinion:) What's the product they're pitching? Any examples?

Sorry I've been at work and I don't get on that often. I didn't mean to communicate that the reason people with weight issues aren't accepted isn't because of weight issues. I don't know that and I never said that. I just don't assume the crux is physical appearance. It may be because their bodies may not be healthy enough to walk a mile let alone run one. I don't know. You say that you have friends with that experience and I believe you. All I meant to say was that there are other factors to consider. Insurance, liability...I had to get a physical to play Jr. High baseball for gosh sakes. To me that is more logical. I know a minister who is literally huge. But she is amazing at loving people and she can push push push all day long. She gives and can go all day giving, teaching and loving. Nobody gets on her case about her weight cause they see how she can serve without reservation or hindrance and she is healthy. Not trying to fan the flames. Just offering another viewpoint. Flames will be flamed by it but that forum claims to be open discussion, but it seems to being leaning to personal attacks now./ But that's ok. We are all entitled to our own opinion.

in the mountains baby!:)

You should read those posts again. They clearly say it was there one year. It was a year when the program moved from Gunnison to HQ. It is no longer done this way. That is why there is so so so so so so so much misinformation on here. People hear something, a whisper, and everybody assumes that is how it was and still is. I'm not saying that obese individuals are always allowed in. I'm saying that there may be more practical reasons that they are not accepted. Like a doctor not signing off on a physical because a person could fall over with a heart attack at any moment. Insurance and liability seem to have more to do with it than people blushing because they are graduating ministers with 40 in waists.

I haven't heard that people haven"t been accepted based on physical appearance. I think that that is bull. If anything it is due to health issues related to a weight problem. Big difference. I went through the training more recently than Old-school and there was people I would call heavy. Oh and the duo is not done behind Founders Hall. Fact

Wow keep a journal, working out, flossing your teeth. How horrible Jesus Christ had different programs. When he did activities he told them don't take any extra shoes, don't take any money and go believe God. Get over it.

No SS for working for a church? Don't think so. They still pay SS. You Don"t have your facts straight. Employees of TWI still have SS taken out of their pay check.

I never like anything Karen Armstrong writes. the first point I have to disagree with. That TWI claims the the Bible is perfect (forget her exact words and to busy to go copy and paste). I believe they teach the Word as originally given by God was perfect. discrepancy comes from errors in translation and/or error in our understanding.

all the cars are gone. everybody gets around grounds now on segways. hahahaha Basketball court east of the jordan, man you must have left some time ago. Why not come around for a service some time?

Yes international numbers exceed national. I would argue about the "natural" tendency for the future. There is so much conjecture here. Numbers have steadily rose in recent years (post 2004). The criteria for country coord. are very specific yet I do not know all of them. All I know is that much consideration is given. Nobody who just starts up a fellowship in a country and requests to be named a country coor. is given that opportunity to steward the resources a established country with leadership is given. Fact. Oh and Venezuala does have a country coord. They have Way Corps in fact. Fact

Well I believe there was a cap on the numbers for the first AC returning to Gunnison.

points noted

Interesting poll. I studied these in college. Looks like this site is not very effective in reaching people that came to TWI in recent years. Just filled with people who are ....ed and feel their 20s and 30s were stolen in the 70s and 80s.

My advice is to stay if you're happy.

Actually TWI is very upfront in communicating to believers in the us about the International Outreach progress. Most people know how many countries are official (established leadership with trained country coordinators). Those flags do not represent just "Joe Grad" in a military base. The flags represent official countries that meet criteria. There are many other countries that are still "developing" that are not "official" but have strong fellowships. None of you guys know what you're talking about. Most U.S. believers know the majority of faithful grads are outside the U.S.

I don't know about you but I am so glad to know certain truths like: Jesus is not God The dead are not alive I can pray perfectly God is always good God's Word is true I will meet the Lord in the air... anybody else?