Shellon

Liar? :P-->

:)--> Jim, my first love in Kindergarten. He's a pedophile now. Richard, my second love in 6th grade, I stole some marbles for him. Happily married now for 23 years. Tom, high school sweetheart, engaged to be married for 2 years. Broke engagement when he slapped me. Bob North, the one I married and truly loved, the father of my daughters. Him I miss. :)-->

never do this without something under the candle tho. A aluminum pie plate, even paper plate, to catch any falling hot stuff.

Pat said: You ask the questions of TWI under oath, and should they lie(purjury), they can be charged with a criminal offense. ============================================ I totally understand how the legal process works, thanks. Yes, they will lie,(purjury) and SHOULD be charged with a criminal offense. For me personally, I just can't stomach the same old lies to the same old questions.

Great reminder MO, thanks. I do hope that it's nothing more for my girls' grandmother and her children. I love them and miss them and wish my youngest daughter knew them. I grieve the cost to them and to us.

I think about this one often concerning my late husband's family, still in twi. Is it really worth it to them to miss out on his two amazing daughters? Is it really worth it to them to lose so many memories, and so much love? What do they really think when they are all alone and think of our daughters? Do they pretend they don't exist? What kind of mental illness has to kick in to forget that Kelly looks like a carbon copy of daddy? What, to forget that Samantha has his incredible love and tenderness and brilliance? A family that believes they should not have that in their lives? What a shame that they'll give up his children for a ministry that fills in the pitiful gaps with false affection and lies. Does my children's grandmother never wish she could see them, hold them, talk to them? When Kelly asked me if daddy had a mommy and why didn't she like her, I had to tell that sweet face that yes he did, but daddy's mommy chooses to be one of the sad people that choose to not know love. "She must be lonely" Kelly said.

Given twi passion for lying under oath, as well as anywhere, I can't understand the point of asking questions. They are gonna answer them like they've always answered them; to their favor. And us? Left with a bag of unanswered questions, as usual.

Geo said: UNDER THE TUSCAN SUN - Harmless I guess, but need I say CHICK FLICK? The most difficult decision of this poor woman's life was what color she should have her staff of tradesmen paint her newly remodeled foyer in her newly purchased villa in the Italian countryside. Yeah, isn't that always the problem? --------------------------------------------- You're comment proves it is a chick flick. LOL the color of her walls was not her biggest decision! sheesh, crack me up. Didn't you get that she wanted many things? She wanted someone to love, she wanted to cook for people, she wanted to understand the railroad tracks, she wanted to figure out why her marriage blew up in her face. So much more than what color to paint the walls. Men, sigh

I agree with catcup, number one is Mrs. W's. # 2 and 3 don't look like any of the signatures on the letters I have. None of the above.

sigh. and so many more knew and condoned. and so many more know now and condone.

type it in where?

I would agree with you in part that maybe the answers don't exist. Or at least not to our satisfaction. We did question, at some point, I think though. Maybe not soon enough, long enough or maybe we just couldn't do anything about the answers for a time. For me, personally, I questioned in plenty of time, but jumped in anyway because of love. Then before I knew what happened, that love had become a marriage and each layer got piled on top of the others and I was bound by vows and not being willing to have my daughter lose her daddy. But that's another talk show. I think that some events in our lives don't have concrete answers that we can be satisfied with. And we have to accept that and find a place for the frusteration. I will never understand why I allowed my child to be put in the dangerous places I did. I will never understand why I put up with the crap I did or did the things I did. I know I am a very intelligent outspoken women and am shocked at what I took. But maybe that's part of the answer to why I finally broke free. Speaking of our age group being seekers, are we now at the place in our life where we again are seeking but with more settled motives for answers? The age I am in now, the mid 40's almost is biologically the time of life when we are more quiet, better leaders, less patient and much more sure of where we need to be. At 22 when I got sucked into twi by way of love, I was still a child, with childish ideations and plans for who I wanted to be. I was more vulnerable, more laid back cared almost nothing about tomorrow. It was and is the nature of that age group. Also at that age, are we not self professed bullet proof? Did we not have the attitude of 'they can't control me, I don't care what anyone says, I'll dam well leave when I wanna leave' and we really believed it and acted like it. I dunno, I love your questions, I just lean into the not knowing if we'll ever really know, or at least not for now.

And I appreciate it. :D-->

RAY DARRRRRRRR HA. no more swimming classes for me. 1. Failed kids classes 7 times as a kid and 2 times as an adult. How's that for trauma? 2. My husband almost drowned trying to teach me. 3. I don't like the water.

Did I mention that I don't know how to swim?

HEY! I'm a fun girl.

I was having a shi##y day when I said I'd not be able to be at the third annual weenie roast. Can I still come? :)--> Will try my best to do so.

:D--> Happy Birthday! Yeah, how old are you? Love, Shell, Sam and Kelly

Yes, Catcup, I'm speaking of the people of whom you speak as well as those that believed sickness was weakness, as taught in twi and didn't tell anyone they were ill because they knew what would happen and whatever was making them ill killed them.

This one gets me going, for sure. I'm interested in twi's guilt trips that ended up causing death.

Naw, Tom, didn't try to trick ya. Just wanted to do a thread with a current event, was all. :)-->

Happy Birthday :)-->

:)--> Happy Birthday HopeF.

The article says the man's name was Dan Johnson, the married couple's names were not mentioned.

Well for starters Then the next morning the now sober married couple realized what the heck they'd done last night. Then their guest wouldn't wake and go home.