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HAP; This reply bounces around a bit, in the good to know area. A bit of a ramble, but thats ok. In stepping back just a bit, lets talk about speed. Most of the time, how fast a program runs is not a necessity, more of an convenience for you and I. Yet, the software manufacturer has options in that regard, he can design the program to, for instance, start to load, but as it loads it checks to see if the minimum requirements are present on the PC, if they aren't present it just stops. I am not saying this is the way Turbo Cad is, but this is the way some software is designed. Now other software, works differently, the minimum requirements, if not met, the software runs, just runs slower, testing our patience for something to get done, but it does run. So, in thinking about Turbo Cad, I can't say, from a common sense view, why speed is the source problem of the product breaking, its a possibility I do give you that, but if that is true, it is by design, or better put, by decision, and the real answer can only come from the designer. It is unlikely the manufacturer is going to tell you as that goes well under the hood so to speak, you would be asking about information that falls into the Patents arena. And Patents are, quite frankly, now days, 80 percent or more of a high tech companies assets. The Patent could be as simple as a process or a series of steps that accomplish a specific task. Speeding up a PC, is maintenance, and its part of the name of the game with computers. A great example is the one you reference, upgrading a video driver. That idea has two parts: compatibility and speed. Software designers put their products out in the market, after drawing a line on how many issues still remain with regard to the software...like a compromise, a compromise they can live with. In other words, software will always have bugs, its a question of how serious those bugs are. So, as far as fixes and upgrades go, the manufacturer fixes the major compatibility issues reported to it by users or their in house testers. Secondly, there tends to be room for improvement, the code guys write tighter code that results in less computer resources being used and the result is a faster driver. PC's are a compromise, always. Another line drawn. You pay for technology, a premium for cutting edge, and the price point goes down from there. Upgrade-ability of the PC is by design within the limitations of how fast and furious the market is changing, as in, so many, many players, all looking out for a piece of the market. Laptops by design have less upgrade-ability. Most of our time with PC's is with upgrading software. Working with PC's is a mind set. As a consumer, I keep my eyes and ears open. Its important to me to keep on the prowl for better tools to enhance my experience, my PC lags so I find the best defragger on the market or the best registry fixer, or upgrade my processor. And I have to do that because of what the PC business is, a business cycle. As we go, I get farther off the subject, but it is interesting. For the most part, software manufacturers make their money off of two areas: upgrades and standards. And this applys to hardware as well. Microsoft, Cisco, name anyone, their money comes from designing standards, which is not the same as the implementation of something physical. Setting a standard is like a push into a market, for example, Microsoft develops DirectX, Microsoft uses it in some products, but they get more money from licensing the standard, its adoption by gaming companies, and on and on. Cisco, does networking, yes, they sell network products, but they focus on designing standards, which is really just a way of accomplishing some form of work, solving a problem. The standards Cisco designs for the most part are protocols, the way networking hardware is to communicate. Design the standard and you influence the market, it may be only for a year, but it may be for a decade. In closing, this ramble. The big picture is interesting to discuss. Having worked in the software development area, manufacturing, standards, protocols, the whole ball of wax has been a wonderful ride. And the really great news is none of it has ever been rocket science, I leave that to the coders. I just got into PC's as a focus, and nothing more, no real academics, for the most part, all self taught. I have had plenty of schooling along the way, to fill in, so to speak. To me, the PC world is like a war I will never win, I have merely found that most of the battles are fun, as long as I can tolerate the details... regards, Michael

Ya, ah, so it looks like Tcw15.exe is the executable for Turbo Cad 15. In using Turbo Cad, the application, there is a call for a service to the operating system and the operating system considers "the way" the call is being made an exception, so then there is a crash. The particulars are that mfc42.dll is in the system code area, operating system arena... well, and I do my best to like summarize as an opinion, my opinion is that this limitation will continue. To me, I see no fix, unless we are talking about Turbo Cad or the video driver. This is a case of "not playing well with others". It looks to me that you are using the application and it breaks. Software is tested by companies on a variety of computers and configurations, however, not all conditions, all configurations, the depth and breadth of that testing is the line the particular software company draws itself. And, of course I am not critizing the quality of the product, you do use it, I am sure it is a fine product. Debugging is the granularity (the depth of the details) required to track a problem to the source and with your attachment there is enough there to say more time spent by you on solving it is potentially a dead end. If a new video driver comes out, you have an option, or if Turbo Cad continues to upgrade you have an option. Those look like the most likely players here. And even more depressing, fixes to both players could be required. Hence, the madness..we cant get there from here.. If you think of the problem as an onion, and the lower level you go to find the software steps that lead to the error/crash, that I am sure we would agree is the source..well, finding the source still appears to lead the problem to be out of your hands. If you do have some contact with Turbo Cad or can get in with Turbo Cad with the issue, there is a potential for a resolution, that would be the best first direction, ...video card manufacturer, a second choice... So, in wrapping this up, way to lengthy already. You never really know about software manufacturers, they can be flexible they can be a black box, in putting myself in your shoes, I would say with the very, very limited info I have on Turbo Cad, who knows they may listen to you, an investment of 5 or 10 minutes for you in an email, and they write back or they don't. ---nerd alert---again, I salute you if you made it this far------------------ TCW15.EXE needs a service done by MFC42.DLL, but its request isn't obeying the rules: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION in module MFC42.DLL at 001B:73E4898F (this is merely the where, a virtual memory location, not a physical location) The debug shows you also the values contained in the registers of your computer. The EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION line comes from XP itself, as in an Operating System is the traffic cop or big brother. The Operating System defines who gets to do what, when and where as far as software, and it is a good thing..Without a traffic cop, badly behaving software could overwrite data, so the operating system really defines the boundaries other software runs in. ====================================== regards, michael

Well, HAP, my first client. I haven't heard or seen the UE for some time, so my frame of reference, or perception is we are talking about a Windows 95 or Windows 98 machine? The way you have asked the question is exceptional, the root cause...that is the million dollar question. The long answer is that software is really the computer, the hardware of the computer only carries out the instructions given to it by software..and although software is like stored on some media, a hard drive, a flash stick, whatever...the software is very rarely as good or predicatable as the hardware. So, you have something running, there is always something running, an application, whatever on your coumputer. Then something happens, the code isn't logical, but something breaks down. The software, the code, most of the time, has somewhere to go, if it well written code, a error message, which are also written into the code to occur when its important, many times gives you something to go by...here...its like the code, goes for the generic error message, a catch all type error message.. so that is whats going on..the software saying I do not know where to go, I do not know what to do, I can't recover from here. So, the info, that makes this easier, is what, when, were or are you doing, prior to the error message? What it the pattern of use that results in the error message being generated? Something very specific, everytime you do this, this and this, you get the error message...or no real pattern, it happens without a pattern, you could be doing anything and it comes up? michael

You, too, excathedra..love your location: hell&back2

My opinion and experience is that giving is not all that bad of a thing. It is my experience that is talking, and you may have another experience. To me, giving to TWI, whether that was a total of 3 thousand or 5 thousand, it was the intent that made it giving. Firmly, I believe this principle has come back to me, in money or things, that were necessary for me to receive so far during my life. Yes, the Tithe, I believe is merely LAW, OT law, and has no bearing on today, as a percentage, and yes TWI went way beyond the pail on the Tithe specifically...I recall Uncle Harry and statements about its not real giving until you are at 15% or more, yet in the end of it, the conclusion I feel is rational, well, isn't our crime of practicing something specific washed clean by the fact that we practiced something dictated by someone else. And I may sound pretty flaky, its like from the Shakespeare play Henry V, and around the campfire before the battle with the French, the English soldiers are talking about the justness of the Kings cause and the Kings responsibility if his cause is not just. I am unhappy about not receiving/hearing what feels like the real truth with regard to giving with TWI, the changing story of what giving is over the years of my involvement with TWI...and yet, in counting up what has come my way, in whatever form, the balance appears to be well, well beyond whatever I provided to TWI. And it may even be that the principle of giving by so many of thousands of honest folks, over a stretch of time to TWI, worked against TWI in the long run as well, a part of that big picture...TWI had abundance and the abundance was not funnelled back into keeping or supporting those in need in TWI..the elderly, the weaker of us, including myself...michael

Nancy and I were WOW's together in Nashville, that feels to me like 1974. And I caught up with her for a few minutes in San Diego a number of years later, like after year residence in the WC. Anybody know some details. I think I would like to get some pictures of the 5 - 8 or 9th WC, see if I can pick out some folks...anyway, Nancy G anyone? Maybe, I have one to many f's, Nancy Graf michael

Nice post, I knew Joann, she was WOW in Lynchburg, VA..

So; Again a newbie here, and by my own admission, bi-polar on the mania side. Another intro: My name is Michael Chudzinski, a newbie. To be honest, my opinion, practice..is that giving is a decent thing to do, being outside of The Way International, the thing that sticks in my mind is the public service message that has the theme that giving ones time has value, like their example is a father spending time with his children...its a principle to me, spending time with an internal personal view or intent of unconditional love is giving. So here goes: I may be able to help some of the folks on the PC world, if in using your computer there is some issue. In specific terms: I will keep an eye on whats being posted in the forum and respond to you, if I feel I can assist you, or I have some reasonable person experience in that area. Advice or possibly direction for a problem. So, my time flexibility is a spectrum, sometimes I am so very busy, sometimes I got nothin going on except upgrades around my farm. Anyway, Switch to newbie role: This is who I was (with getting older and more competition from Overseas in the field) MY QUALS: Wall Data 1992-1993 Technical Support Note 1 Midisoft - 1992-1993 Beta Tester - Note 2 Microsoft 1993-1994 Technical Support - Note 3 Keane, Inc. 1994-1995 Technical Support - Note 4 Siemens 1995-1999 Desktop Technician - Note 5 Nomadix 1999 - 2001 Experienced Tester - Note 6 These dates are from memory, not a resume. Bottom line is I started into PC's around 1985, graduated from Evergreen State with a B.A, focused on the PC area, that drew me to Advanced Networking. So, its a lifetime of experience in what 11 years. So, Redmond when Microsoft was 6 buildings, then to Silicon Valley, then to L.A. where the money from the Internet Boom had spilled down to high tech areas in Westlake Village.. A past life, really, yet I stayed reasonably up on changes in the PC world. Like right now, I sort of get the impression that the i7 processor by Intel is a good bang for the buck. -----So, if you venture this far..nerd talk coming...I salute you, if you make it a read all the way through--------- Note 1: Wall Data does mainframe to PC communications. Software emulators. Emulation is a software mimic. I supported customers that had issue of our software being able to have a computer session with a mini-mainframe or mainframe. Note 2: Mididsoft competed with Microsoft's new product "Power Point". I tested Midissofts' product "Presentation Partner"..specifically, the functioning of a new software technology/standard knowm and OLE or object linking and embedding. Its childs play today, but back then, it was where the market of software was cutting edge.. Note 3: Microsoft was growing. This is like DOS 6.1. to Windows 3.11 and Windows 95 is alpha code. And I am there as a Contractor. Note 4: Keane is partnered with Microsoft. Ah, Windows 95. And I am back at Microsoft as a visiting engineer. New code on a technology that allows a business to encrypt application software that can be unlocked with a key..like you pay for the key and viola...whatever product..Ta Da... and 95 rolls out, people are buying copies way faster than anticipated and the calls are coming in... Note 5: Siemens was big in Santa Clara, 1,400 workers, a new chip used for something called a "smart card". USB is the new high tech for hardware, the cutting edge. We do muti-mode fiber optics to the desktop. Oh, and as good as it got were german software solutions to using the Internet as a mode for tele-conferencing, yep, at this time Microsoft's product broke every time there was too much information from one side, or too long a lag.. and now days we take voice and video chat for granted...I come from this dark age in computer technology. So, I leave about the time that blu-tooth was all prototype and gigabit ethernet cards just hit the market for, well, basically testing. I'm pulling in the 60K's. Note 6: Nomadix was founded by one of the founders of the Internet, and long term Instructor at UCLA, Leonard Kleinrock. He invented "packet switching". His best student developed the TCP/IP protocol. So, I am working in a small engineering group. We put together test networks. So, I do ATM, cable heads, the cutting edge technology that is emerging out of Japan called "DSL". ===== Michael

well, the thing is that I do remember that place, Delaware, and FLO's would hang down there and the laundermat, from time to time. I do remember I would hit the stop for pie, coffee..I don't recall being on a breakfast run, though, after rolled oats/groats/nuts/honey/milk breakfast at the apartments..

I haven't heard or thought of Hayes for many, many years. I did travel up to Maine for some involvement in that political emphasis TWI had, it was sort of in the diversity of the ministry that was going on: way builders, and so on. I was at the time associated with the Way of Virginia and Michael Martin, but for me it was a complete wash, nothing really gained. After the legalism of the fellowlaborers of Ohio, I was in an environment more of liberty, more liberty than I was comfortable with and none of the political emphasis gelled with me. At this time, I remember also, that a lot of concern was going on of an apocolypse, spelling, whoops, but what I mean is folks keeping food stores, canned and dried this and that, like a years worth...michael

Hi, folks. This is Michael. For a couple years, at least, I have been looking over and reading the content on GSC. Never really went into any of the Forums. And its a decent site. I feel that anyone who has experienced TWI, whatever that involvement, they have a perception, and perhaps a story to tell. My story isn't something I can tell in any fashion of completeness, way too many words, it may take some time. The short version, is that I took the PFAL class after meeting some WOW's in Lynchburg, VA...which historically was during the rise of Mr. Falwell and his Baptist Church and his Baptist College. Then I took the Intermediate Class at a family camp in Iowa, then there was the ROA and I went WOW to Nashville, Tenn...and then there was the Fellow Laborers of Ohio... I do have some bad things to say, I think it would be better to put it as "bad news", there were some things I saw, yet I feel I am capable of tempering those things with good news as well. For those of you who think you know me, do drop me a line at: michael.chudzinski@yahoo.com And, I think it best to say, regardless of who you were in my life in TWI, I don't feel I have an agenda for you, it happened, its what is was, its past, and live goes on, and Jesus Christ is still coming...there are still some pretty great things worth living for and doing...regards...michael .... Iowa..