Zixar

Dot: Your quote about has been bothering me all day. I'd heard it before, but not from Wierwille.Then it hit me--I had read it before, and I think it was in Everything You Always Wanted To Know About Sex But Were Afraid To Ask. Except that Dr. Reuben related that story as it was the older women in the tribe who would deflower the girls and teach them about sex, not their own fathers as VPW claimed. I'll see if I can't find the reference, but it just made me want to vomit... The fool hath said in his heart, "PFAL is the word of God..."

Ginger: A few things, maybe. 1) All viewpoints are not created equal. 2) Coherence is a virtue, not a sin. 3) The ENTER key is not really a punctuation mark. The fool hath said in his heart, "PFAL is the word of God..."

Sorry, Dot. Really. The fool hath said in his heart, "PFAL is the word of God..."

YOu know, Ginger If not even Garth can understand what the hell you'r e saying half of the time, I wouldn't go around pointing the "issues" f i n g e r. The fool hath said in his heart, "PFAL is the word of God..."

I had high hopes for it, but the storyline PLODS. I'll keep watching, but the main character is darn near unlikeable. Okay, I get it, he's a sullen, brooding teenager--GET ON WITH THE STORY! Of course, one of the developers of the show is Ronald D. Moore, one of the evil bastards who was responsible for ruining the new Star Trek shows. Coincidence? I think not... The fool hath said in his heart, "PFAL is the word of God..."

Ginger: No, I wouldn't go that far. Honestly, I think that we're so far apart that any feigned meeting of the minds would be disingenuous. We've misunderstood each other for so long that it would take far more than a simple "let's be friends again" to set matters straight. The fool hath said in his heart, "PFAL is the word of God..."

Ginger: I did apologize to Excathedra after realizing my mistake, it's on the bottom of the previous page, if you missed it. It was not my intent to be malicious with my comments about you, even though I honestly do believe you to have the most diametrically-opposed viewpoint and style to my own. That's why I characterized it as weird or off-the-wall. It wasn't meant to be insulting, just descriptive. I'm sorry that you inferred otherwise. My apologies to you as well, Zixar (p.s. Garth is still a weirdo. I can't change that.) The fool hath said in his heart, "PFAL is the word of God..."

Excathedra: I owe you a BIG apology. For some reason, it appears that I stopped reading your original post at the slash mark. (i.e., I only read "SOMETIMES i feel like the person with the most "out there" thoughts..." and missed the rest of it.) That's all I keyed that stupid remark off of, and I see now that had I paid more attention to ALL of what you wrote, I would have seen that my remark was in fact wildly inappropriate in the whole context. My humble apologies, Zixar (p.s. Garth is still a weirdo. Just ask him.) The fool hath said in his heart, "PFAL is the word of God..."

Ex: Cruel? What's not true about it? Is GingerTea somehow less weird (not bad, just weird) than you are, or does Garth NOT happily wear his particular eccentricities like a badge of honor, or is Mike somehow NOT a walking Psych thesis waiting to happen? I'm sorry if you took it differently, but it wasn't meant to be derogatory, hence the smiley==> :D--> The fool hath said in his heart, "PFAL is the word of God..."

Ex: No, I'm not sure if you even crack the Top 3 GreaseSpot Weirdos. GingerTea has you beat by a country mile in the "out there" department, but it's hard to classify some folks. Some are out-there by design (like Garth) and some are out-there by some sort of mental defect (like Mike). You may not even crack the top five... :D--> The fool hath said in his heart, "PFAL is the word of God..."

If Mike were German, he'd probably be in here claiming that the Jews asked for the Holocaust... --> Then again, VPW thought the 6 million was just a myth anyhow, sooo.... The fool hath said in his heart, "PFAL is the word of God..."

I think Dot nailed it with this: The fool hath said in his heart, "PFAL is the word of God..."

Here we go with Mike's martyr complex again... --> The fool hath said in his heart, "PFAL is the word of God..."

Rottie: Yes, VP taught that crap about the Original Sin being masturbation (i.e. must have been a banana, not an apple...) in CF&S. Fortunately, right before the segment started, our Limb C stood up and said "The biblical evidence for this next segment is still under review, so don't take it as set in stone." Not surprising that he didn't stick around long after LCM's "Obey or Die" letter... Apparently, VP took the phrase with the Serpent showing Eve that the fruit of the tree was a thing "to be desired" and declared it meant "to be desired sexually". Funny, then, as how masturbation is not mentioned again in the Levitical cleanliness laws, although it does go out of its way to legislate that you can't touch the saddle upon which a menstruating woman has sat. Must have been an oversight... --> The fool hath said in his heart, "PFAL is the word of God..."

CF&S was an unusual class--they didn't give a syllabus when I took it. The first part was the "Family" part, man head of household, children unruly, etc. Those verses and the like. Second part was the sex part. VP runs through all these slang terms for genitalia because "you can't minister to someone if you don't understand what they're talking about" --> (Hello? Word of Knowledge, anyone? Oh well...) He shows diagrams of all sorts of different breast and penis shapes (which drew laughter from the women in my class, "Look, honey! There's yours!" (My TC's wife)) Mrs. Wierwille is there and she looks embarrassed and miserable, wanting to be anywhere in the world but on that set. He has Dr. Winegarner talk about some physiology, tells women how to spit-lubricate their partner if necessary, makes an offhand reference about masturbation preferable to being unblessed with sex, etc., etc. Ick. I feel like I need a shower just remembering all that stuff. My TC told me VP used to use married Corps people for live demonstrations of the positions, but had to stop because it was freaking the students out. Don't know if that's true, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was. The fool hath said in his heart, "PFAL is the word of God..."

Tom: Just pick your favorite. Mine was a bit on the vulgar side, so I changed it. The fool hath said in his heart, "PFAL is the word of God..."

Oh. So, if one were to [EDITED: euphemism for becoming sexually aroused] at the mere thought of this overdosed brawny-brainiac, then that, of course, would not bias our research in any way?The fool hath said in his heart, "PFAL is the word of God..."

Well, if PFAL is the Word of God, then it has to have a mathematical exactness, a scientific precision, and fit like a hand in a glove. It doesn't, so either it was wrong when it said that, and therefore not the perfect Word of God, or it was right when it said that, disqualifying itself from being the Word of God. Wait... Where's the option that lets it really be the Word of God again? Raf? You got it somewhere? I can't find it... The fool hath said in his heart, "PFAL is the word of God..."

I'm still waiting on the answers to these... The fool hath said in his heart, "PFAL is the word of God..."

Dan: Skipping commercials is the thin end of the wedge. Tivo lets you time-shift television. You don't have to be at the mercy of the tv schedules any more. Tivo lets you create your own personal tv station with only the stuff you want to watch. Spend a couple of hours with the family, then watch that 8 o'clock show at ten, instead. The football game starts, but long-lost friend calls just at the kickoff. Press Pause, talk to him for up to half an hour, then hit play and watch the game without missing anything. You can then skip through the commercials for trucks & beer until you're caught back up to realtime. Secret Tip for TiVo users: Take the remote, press Select-Play-Select-3-0-Select and your ->| key will turn into a skip 30 seconds forward key. (It still functions as ->| when in FF or REW modes.) Now you can use ->| to skip commercials with one button press in your recorded shows. :)--> Do it again (S-P-S-3-0-S) to turn it off. The fool hath said in his heart, "PFAL is the word of God..."

Here's Rafael's list, just so folks won't have to hop back over to Page 1: The fool hath said in his heart, "PFAL is the word of God..."

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English peas are the Devil's vegetable, the contents of his vile handkerchief after a nasty bout of brimstone bronchitis. English peas shall be a blight unto the land, yea, even for seventy and seven generations. The fool hath said in his heart, "PFAL is the word of God..."

I don't know why I've liked every Robert Rodriguez movie I've ever seen. Even though OUATIM is supposed to be a sequel to "Desperado", which was supposed to be a sequel to "El Mariachi", you'll only get confused if you try to link the 3 movies up. Like, Carlos Gallardo, the Mariachi from "El Mariachi" is in "Desperado", but he's a different mariachi. Antonio Banderas is the mariachi character from the first one in the second one. And the third one, kind of. Then, Cheech Marin, the bartender from 2 shows up again in 3, despite the fact he was ventilated through the forehead in 2. Also, Danny Trejo, the knife-throwing assassin from 2, who got swiss-cheesed in that film, shows up again as another assassin in 3. Salma Hayek, who was the bookstore owner in 2 shows up again in 3, which is ok because she survived 2, but she's only shown in flashback in 3 because the bad guys killed her in 2-1/2. Or something. Oh yeah, and Johnny Depp is in 3. I looked for him in 1 and 2, but he wasn't in either, so I suspect he just wandered onto the set of 3 and was so creepy nobody wanted to ask him to leave. Mickey Rourke uses a chihuahua as a fashion statement, and Willem Dafoe tries to out-creep Johnny Depp, but misses by a mile, even after having his face cut off. Then there's Ruben Blades, just because there weren't enough Hispanic actors with goofy roles. That's what you get if you try to put the continuity together--a headache. No matter. OUATIM is an action movie, made by a man who loves Hong Kong gun-fu. It's set in Mexico. It has two hot actors for the ladies to stare at, enough bullets to make even the most jaded redneck drool with envy, and an hour and forty minutes of escapist entertainment. That's all you really need to know. ;)--> The fool hath said in his heart, "PFAL is the word of God..."

P-Mosh: Yes, LCM absolutely hated onions, and VPW hated garlic. Insert your own vampire joke here. The fool hath said in his heart, "PFAL is the word of God..."