johniam

I once took a college class, intro to psyche, where they showed us films of college students who volunteered to have their brain waves monitored while they slept. They figure everybody dreams every 1 1/2 hrs all night, so I guess anyone can wake up woozy depending on what part of the sleep cycle they're in when they wake up. Sirguess: do you do meditation?

That face. I can see him saying, "God bless and welcome to twig."

Speaking of the Barret administration, anybody know the words to Astronimy domine. That was a cool song...flicker flicker flicker flap POW!!! or something.

Even if there was no pressure to buy something as you say, natural laws seem to mandate being awake eventually, but you hit on something. Consider these Beatles lyrics... please don't wake me, no don't shake me, leave me where I am; I'm only sleeping. Yes, avoiding mainstream awake consciousness is sometimes a "welcomed friend". Maybe that's why a lot of our generation took drugs.

I think those lyrics are from Strawberry Fields Forever, but the lyrics to Lucy in the Sky make more sense than discriminating against Boy Scouts. It's the new dynamic liberal agenda bigotry.

Who made these waking restrictions anyway; they sure can be annoying.

When I first glanced at this thread I thought it was going to say "If you can read this, you're too close!"

Well, yeah, I don't wake up like that every time. When our kids were infants my wife and I shared getting up at 3AM for stuff and you develop a new set of reflexes, but I saw a show where Paul McCartney said he got 'Yesterday' while in that half awake state. Who knows, maybe Peter nodded out while praying on Simon the tanner's roof and saw those animals while waking up.

I'm not surprised.

Sometimes, I will wait several seconds after the light is out, then make a pawing noise on the sheet (whtt whtt whtt, etc.). Then, in my smoothest Discovery channel narrator voice...."In the ancient hunting and gathering societies, the male would initiate the mating process....(make the pawing noise again)....the female would then, uhhh.... See, this way, she has time to interject something like...."Yeah, but those hunting and gathering societies are extinct and so will you be if you try anything!!!" If she doesn't interject anything, I figure I'm in. Marriages are like finger prints and snow flakes: no 2 alike. Isn't God wonderful? Congratulations.

This past new yrs eve one of the cable channels had a bunch of rock and roll movies playing all night. One of them was 'The Last Waltz'. Lot of good music in that movie, but slow moving. They'd have a song or 2 and then 2-3 minutes of Robbie Robertson and the others talking. So I nodded out ten minutes into the movie. I woke up to Joni Mitchell singing that song 'Coyote'. It was cool because that song is like a lot of her stuff, but it moved along pretty good and it took about a minute from my first memory of seeing her on the screen to being in full focus. I got chills. I ended up buying the DVD and listening to anything I could get my hands on of her for awhile. I'm not sexually attracted to her; in fact, I think she's kind of funny looking, but I could listen to her for hours at a time sometimes. She's a terrific artist. But it all came from waking up woozy. That 1 minute period in transition from barely awake to in full focus was an interesting journey. I've had others like that. Once when in TWI I slept for 30 minutes on the living room couch and woke up to the phone and I answered the phone and I'm pretty sure I swore at whoever made the call and hung up. Might've been a telemarketer; might've been the branch leader. ???????? But waking up woozy is interesting. I wondered if anybody else remembers anything similar. Maybe this is where SNL came up with 'Deep thoughts by Jack Handy'.

Stanley Reahard posted on waydale that she and Bo were at a night owl at HQ in 1981 in which VP said the US fought on the wrong side in WW2. Later she was telling Bo they ought to leave right then, but they stayed around for a few more years.

I wonder if menstrual flow could short them out (no pun intended).

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Maybe RFR thought it was JWs or Mormons. quote: door to door is not dead What do you mean. He means that, while true sailing is dead, door to door is not dead.

That superintendant, Doerhoff, sounds like a real creep. So to him it was "insubordination" for this teacher to help the student? Sounds like a real control freak. Come to think of it, it sounds like the superintendant took sadistic pleasure in putting the student in her "place". That could have a traumatic effect on the student, and by helping her the teacher partly restored her self esteem and so the super goes ballistic. What an *******! Anything's possible with limited info. The student could be a rebellious child who needs more discipline and the teacher could have already had a history with the super and this incident made it come to a head, but 7 other teachers willing to quit their jobs??? I'm glad I don't live in that school district.

Weird. 1. Orthodox Judaism (100%) 2. Islam (96%) 3. Reform Judaism (90%) Krysilis? Nothing in the questions about Jesus Christ.

I think AOS would be the perfect thing to see if you fell asleep watching TV and woke up at 3AM woozy and came into focus to see AOS. Man, that would be too much!

In fact, I'll go further. At the place I worked in GR from '94-'00 (roughly 125 employees) there were several Christians in the place. Everybody got along and seemed to be focussed on the work, but one day the plant mgr said that no one could wear a T shirt with any religious messages on it. We figured some wacko called the ACLU, who, in turn contacted the company with a threatening religious message of their own, like "thou shalt not think about God or encourage anybody else to think about God". But what really got us going was one guy wore a T shirt that said "Marilyn Manson: Antichrist superstar!" Religious message: yes or no?

quote: Nobody has prohibited either of your two cases that you say indicate a double standard, so free speech isn't even an issue. In other words, no laws have been passed, but the left biased media has had a field day with the NC Baptist marquis thinking they are "making a difference" which they think will LEAD to laws being passed. In Grand Rapids, MI, where I lived at the time of the Columbine massacre, MM did a show the next night, and dozens of protesters stood outside the location of the show screaming at concertgoers telling them they would go to hell (one guy had a 12' tall wooden cross tethered to his back side), also thinking they were "making a difference". Not long after this, certain influential people in the city tried to get a law passed that would forbid anyone under 18 from attending any shows these people thought would be "unsuitable for western MI youth". Amway founder Jay Van Andel himself, after whom the building the MM show was held at is named, nixed that one in a hurry claiming that there was no possible way to enforce this proposed law. quote: but societal approval of the content of speech has nothing to do with whether or not it is free. Not directly, but the above examples show that some people who try to "make a difference" succeed. If you can't see that there is an obvious double standard in some peoples' thinking (people who might try to "make a difference") then you must be in the middle of it.

Song: Haven't their numbers gone down?

I'm guessing that some of the same people who are condemning the NC Baptists are NOT condemning MM.

I saw a book in the community college library 20 yrs ago called A Dictionary of Angels. Wow! There they were! All in alphabetical order. But TWI used different terminology and the bible uses even different yet. Jesus sometimes named them. In the OT they are sometimes named. Outside of an advanced class syllibus, I know of no list of devil spirits put out by TWI and even that one didn't claim to be complete. Why do you want this list? If it's to help ex TWI people, I'd just get a bible and look over Jesus and Paul dealing with them. TWI (at least during the last 10 or so years) mainly talked about devil spirits to scare their followers into not leaving saying if you leave you will get possessed and such malarchy. Their strategy hasn't worked really well.

Actually, I think MMs fans DO get moral guidance from MM. They may not think of it in those terms but it's the same thing isn't it? I don't think NC Baptists should be banned from the "moral guidance hall of fame" just because of one stray thought. I know that it's true that MM advertizes himself as entertainment whereas NC Baptists advertize themselves as moral guidance and that is a technical difference, but from a freedom of speech perspective, there IS a double standard being used here.

One thing you have to factor in is that neighbors aren't as close today as they were when I was a kid. People move more for one thing. The house I grew up in I lived at from age 1 to college and most kids I knew seemed to be the same way. We had progressive dinners all the time. This is where one house would supply the appetizers, the next house the main course, and so on. I haven't seen that since being a kid. I can't say what effect it would have had if one of the neighbors was in TWI, but my family was pretty liberal (father was an atheist) yet the other neighbors most of whom were strict Christian Reformed still respected us as neighbors and I was friends with their kids and stuff, so I don't know. When I was in TWI I guess neighbors were suspected plants of the adversary until proven otherwise. Some of the TWI people were more friendly than that but mostly that whole cult label got to me that way.