Oakspear

No problem, thanks for the apology. Many "newbies" are when they stumble across the non-Christian minority here. I'm basically an agnostic who participates in pagan/Wiccan/Shamanism ritual and studies their philosophy. Understood. ...and you'd make a great pagan

Not too bad here in Nebraska, but folks seem to forget what snow is like every year and have to re-learn how to drive. Good thing neither of us live up in Alaska, I hear they get more snow than Colorado and Nebraska put together.

D*mn, I should have bet money Like he ever did any farming himself

I won't bet money on it, but I thought that '78 was the first year back at New Knoxville.

And I challenge you to show me scriptures where clergy are ALLOWED to shave, wear eyeglasses, ride horses, get college degrees or play baseball. If there is no prohibition against something, wouldn't the assumption be that it is allowed?

There is a thread about what you liked the most about the ROA. Oh, and welcome to the cafe ...have a cup of coffee and a baked alaska on me. They make that dessert with just the right amount of oil here at GS.

Did I believe? Did I swallow PFAL hook, line and sinker? Not at first, but I was a young Christian looking for answers that I wasn't getting anywhere else. I wanted the bible to make sense, and TWI were the only ones that I had encountered up till that point that claimed it could make sense. I did not have the skills at that time to seriously investigate or really research myself, so I was stuck within TWI's box as far as "making it my own" went. There were things that I did not understand, but I bought the line about holding things in abeyance; I was convinced that Wierwille knew what he was talking about. The longer that I stayed in the more I had invested in it being right, the more I was willing to put up with in the cause of "doing the Word".

Thanks for keeping it civil No rule, bro' (or sis, whatever) - but periodically someone posts a "letter from John Lynn" or some "new, exciting" research from CES and then disappears. If you're gonna put stuff up on our board, stick around to discuss it. That's my opinion, not a rule. Well, he's not my Lord anyway. But seriously, what does Jesus have to do with whether someone should discuss what they put up on a discussion forum? Nope, doesn't bother me, but I do have an opinion about it. Done that, but thanks

Now I do believe that a guy has a certain right to privacy, and frankly, there's things about my personal life that I wouldn't want to discuss but I don't put myself out as any kind of expert on anything, nor do I give others advice that I can't live up to myself.

This is a logical fallacy. The identity or anonymity of the person has nothing to do with the validity of the message.

Taking responsibility for one's actions doesn't let those who have hurt you off the hook.

Maybe the "bs", as you put it in large font, comes out of the drive-by posting style of some of those affiliated with the group formerly known as CES. I've only cared enough to contact anyone in that organization personally less than a handful of times, and received a response each time, although not one that I thought made much sense; still, a response was given. But if an individual or a group doesn't want to engage in discussion on an open forum, don't publically post some monologue then refuse to discuss it publically.

I agree that that would make sense, and is indeed logical, but how do you support it biblically?It seems that God is equally adept at communicating to those with spirit and those without.

You got it, the biggest contradiction in the bunch!

The so-called Great Principle was based on Wierwille's doctrine that God could not speak to us directly, I think that Wierwille said something like "God can only speak to what he is, i.e, spirit", related to his assetion that God can only give what he is. I don't think that either can be supported by the bible.

My take on "leadership" these days is that no matter how nice and loving someone acted, they were still acting from a position of thinking that they had a right to interfere in your life. I include myself in this. The folks who thought that I was the greatest Twig Leader since Jesus Christ probably just were going along in the same direction as I was and didn't have occassion to cross me. The ones who thought that I was an @sshole were ones that I "reproved". I didn't "morph", was pretty much the same guy all along, how I acted and how I was perceived depended a lot on the situation. Some of the biggest b@stards in the 90's also could be guys who were my best buddy under the right circumstances, but when they thought that "the Word" was at stake, look out.

Sudo, you do know that "mano a mano" means "hand-to-hand"? I've seen pictures of Lingo and he's about two of you Now, in a battle of wits...

Must...resist...bad...PFAL...pun....

I've got a ship, but I'm not going to help you

...too bad the rest of you suckers struggling to make ends meet aren't loved by God as much as Lingo is. :(

I believe Mogen David is just a variant spelling of Magen David. Star of Davis? That would be Sammy, right?

cman, that made my morning

Well Mr. Lingo, you and I were often on different sides of GS's various discussions, but you always kept it civil. You'll be back....they always are

Speaking of kidneys... The King James word for kidneys is "reins"; it's where we get the word "renal" I think :huh: Body parts were used figuratively in Hebrew, heart, bowels of compassion, etc. Anyway, Martindale somehow missed this and did a teaching, maybe at one of those Advanced Class specials on one of the verses that used "reins", thinking it meant the reins that you use to steer a horse :o

The ladies loved the yellow hat