Oakspear

Rascal: Believe it or not, I recognized your hubby last year, even though I had only met him once ort twice back in 1981, that Nebraska-ness just doesn't wash off! :D--> My WOWmobile, aka "Big Woody" should be easy to spot, it's a 17 year old fake wood sided brown(ish) station wagon with Nebraska plates. Sudo - we're in a cabin or the inn?

Krys: We're not being evasive about distance, but we're at a different park than last year. Did you say brownies? :D-->

You know you're a Weenie at heart Krys! ;)--> Come to the Roast :D-->

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Oh yeah...it's important to know the laws too. A good resource is the Home School Legal Defense Association http://www.hslda.org/Default.asp?bhcp=1 which provides legal advice and representation to members for a reasonable annual retainer (it used to be $100) In many areas even local school districts are unaware of the law and will insist on sending "observers" or truant officers into your home, even though it's illegal in most jurisdictions. School districts will pass regulations that they say are legal but are not. In some areas nosey neighbors will sic the cops or child protective services on you if they see your kids home on a school day. I know of people who kept HSLDA's phone number right by the phone...they'd hand the phone to the cop or social worker before letting them in the house.

My children were mostly home schooled. We mainly did it because the two oldest didn't seem to be learning anything in public school. Four of my six never went to public school. For some weird reason, when most people express a negative opinion about home schooling, they point to the supposed "lack of socialization", which is a myth IMHO. Another thing: if you home school, do things at the pace that works best for you and your kids. Who says that what the local school curriculum says a 9 year-old should know is really what your child needs to know? One of the great benefits is flexibility, don't get tied down to the same schedule as the local schools if that's not what you want to do. That being said, if your going to home school, it's a COMMITTMENT. While there's nothing that says that you have to be hitting the books from 8 - 3 every day, or that you can't take a day off, there has to be consistancy, it can't just be something that you do "when you have time". My ex-wife did most of the teaching of the kids since she was home and I worked outside the home. It went well for quite a few years, but problems in our marriage and with TWI leadership caused her to neglect her teaching after a while. One of the things that I would do upon coming home from work was to ask the kids about what they learned, to give them a chance to "release" and to reinforce the lessons. I would come home at 6:00 in the evening to discover that their mom had slept in until noon and no school work had been done...day after day. In my situation, I regret having started the home schooling, although in principle I think it's a good idea if you can stick with it day after day.

The great Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic scholar Wierwille, when holding forth on acrostic psalms, tells us that the first four letters of the Hebrew alphabet are alpha, beta, gamma, delta... ...I shoulda left then :P-->

HerbieJuanDictatorDude: We can use the room that Sudo and I are sharing as the initial meeting spot, since we plan on getting there early and providing coffee and Sudo's better-than-sex stew to the gathering throng. Jim Martin! Hope you can make it!

1977-78: once 1978-79: maybe four times, on the crew each time 1979-80: probably another four times, crew again every time; two of them ran in my house 1980-81: WOW year - one class (we were pitiful) - I think only two of the "new students were "witnessed to" by our WOW family - the other five were duped by the WOWvets and locals before we got there mid-year 1981-82: three - coordinated one 1982-83: once - then took an extended TWI break 1990-91: once - my oldest son was in the class, six out of eight people were children of grads 1991-92: No classes run in Nebraska 1992-93: No classes run in Nebraska 1993-94: Twice. My second oldest son was in the first one, but we had to drive to Omaha for it. The second was run by the WOWs; I had a guy in it that I was "undershepherding", and had to get a dispensation from the Trunk office or maybe the archangel Michael to have him in the class 1994-95: Three times. The last year of PFAL in TWI. Was Assistant Coordiantor twice. The final one ended just days before we all left for the ROA. What's that, twenty?We were usually, if not always, told that there was always more in the class to learn. After a while I figured I must be dense, or unspiritual, or something to be missing the new stuff that I should be seeing. By the tenth or twelfth time I started straining at gnats looking for stuff, and coming up with new slants on things out of the air. Funny, I usually saw the "actual arrors", and other goofs in PFAL, but either convinced myself that there was more to it than I was seeing, or excused them somehow. The three-hour long sessions were rough on most people, but were defended by all as the "best" way to do it; of course until WayAP came along and the sessions were shortned to two hours.

One benefit, albeit learned after decades of stupidity, is that I carefully examine what I am told, and believe nothing without some kind of verification. I don't allow anyone to meddle in my personal affairs. I guess those are lessons learned after negative experiences. As Georgio mentioned, I learned in TWI a level of detail and organization that has served me well.

It was a seires of events and situations. Throughout the early to mid-nineties it was a low-level disgust at the hypocrisy at the local level (wasn't yet aware of the higher levels), people who mouthed "The Word", yet didn't practice it. In the mid to late nineties it was the rising discomfort at the incessant meddling by so-called leadership. When the Allen lawsuit was announced it started a progressive questioning of all TWI's practices, as well as it's core doctrines. Eventually they kicked me out, primarily for posting on Waydale & Grease Spot Cafe.

Ten Days Yeah Sudo, if we don't get some more people I may have to drink some extra pahr juice - speaking of which...what's happening with Hawk...is he comin'? I was going to bring a batch of sausage, peppers and onions for the opening festivities, but don't look like we'll need it with this crowd. How are we fixed for food for the rest of the weekend? Should I bring a batch anyway? (It's vacuum-packed, so it should travel well - just heat and serve) Who's the roomie wwjla? Rascal & and maybe some of the 14th tribe Oakspear Sudo Herbal WWJLA & maybe a room mate BOWTWI & princess

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Rascal & and maybe some of the 14th tribe Oakspear Sudo Herbal WWJLA BOWTWI & princess 15 days to go

Sudo: Check your private topics please

Well, at least his biographers said it ;)-->

Rascal & family(?) is the whole tribe and dogs goin' rascal? Oakspear - confirmed Sudo - confirmed Herbal - confirmed WWJLA - confirmed :D-->no, you're not fried pork rinds! Just tryin' to get a realistic number. It seems these get togethers attract lots of attention, but since we all have lives the number who actually show up is a lot less than the initial interest. It has been a long time since rock & roll :D-->

Thanks for your well-meaning post jetc57, you certainly seem sincere. You did state a lot of things as facts, however, that I (in my opinion) would classify as opinion. We don't all agree on the value of the PFAL class, the "ministry" (if it even was a mionistry) or on Wierwille himself. That being said you are welcome to your opinion of all of the above. Why pick apart each others' faults? Not to place blame, not to attack, but to continue to place the spotlight on an organization that is still doing harm, even though you or I may have left it and moved on with our lives. Same with living in the past. There are many people still in TWI who don't know a lot of this stuff, if one person leaves TWI because of Grease Spot, then it was all worth it...and more than one has. You don't care what The Way is doing? That's your decision. They're still hurting people...so I care. Thanks for your good intentions, and the road that they pave :D-->

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Rascal & family(?) Oakspear Sudo Herbal WWJLA come on...speak up

Can youse (or y'all :D-->) who are going post whether you are going for sure and when you plan on arriving? Mainly so the food coordinators know how many mouths are being fed. I'll be arriving 3:00 PM or so. Bringing a coffee pot, plastic stuff and some italian sausage & peppers to supplement the Better'n Sex Stew provided by Sudo.

you da man d!

Heathens? Infidels? How do you view those who believe differently than you do? How do differing beliefs fit into your world-view? (The poll choices are anything but complete!)

Right on Dr. Rascal!