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Mornin Rhino thats separate issue--maybe you could bring that up in another thread Answering a question with a question--you must o been corps! So getting married is like shooting heroin? Although Im sure there are a few ( alot ?)of married and divorced people that would agree with you (bad addiction that you cant get away from, costs you everything and oooo...the pain...), Im not sure I follow your reasoning of marriage=shooting heroin. What are you suggesting these married gays are gonna do, break in in the middle of the night and rob you?

WTF? paraniod delusions would be my guess

??? What??? In what way is weouts or anyones life going to be changed if two adults down the block get married?

Here 'tis----It is a good story---Good for him... The rest of the story..HERE

You are correct! 2 bonus points if you know where its from

Okee doke--of course I havent read through everything in the thread so Im not sure whats been covered or if there is any specific theme---this is the first thing that popped to mind-- We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he to-day that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile, This day shall gentle his condition And gentlemen in England now abed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.

I heard that too from RD at a meeting in FL in the mid 80's sometime--- (I erroneously said Stokely Carmichael at the beginning of the thread somewhere--I meant to say Cleaver---) ....there was also rumors that I heard more than a few times that the band Kansas were early grads but left to pursue a "worldly career" in music hence the lyrics "carry on my wayward son--there'll be peace when you are done"

From the Purple Pew Site: What Does the Bible Actually Say about Being Gay?

i just found this thread, dont quite know my way around or exactly what you are doing but I think that was Thomas Paine

good'un

I heard that Frederick Price , (another televangelist) took it as well, His stuff always did sound PFALish to me of course I dont know if this really qualifies as "celebrity"-- pretty soon we are going to be down to Ed the butcher

gesundheit!

I dont know what Gods favorite color is....Im just glad that I get to perceive things in color, Some species arent so lucky.. getting only black and white and various shades of gray--that would get boring after awhile

A tad steep for my tastes but it does look like a nice camera I probably have something I can sell around here to retire on

Its strange I dont know what fans in other cities think of him, he's just a quiet completely competent guy amongst a team of stars and big names but he is undoubtably the leader, a rare player and probably one of the smartest and hardest working baseball guys I have ever seen and has the right attitude that has transformed the team He'll in all likelihood never make the Hall of Fame--but when he leaves ( in whatever--- 2 or 3 years) there will be a big big hole that will be very difficult to fill. Others--even people like Manny--who you know I love---someone, somewhere could be found who could hit 35Hr and have 100RBI. Replacing Tek wont be so easy.. anyhooos Ive noticed stubhub is alittle more reasonable this year, which is a good thing. Thankfully, through some sort of divine intervention I was able to get these at face value (still expensive)directly from the RedSox Call 1-800-mstarhub

I gotta wonder how much of all this is real.. I spoke to Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull for about 35 seconds after a show and may have even mentioned something about 'the class', while he gave me the patient "I hope this weirdo leaves soon" look. Im pretty sure by the time I got back to hometurf amongst way folks, that by golly I witnessed to him -and unfolded the entire bible to him while he listened intently to my every word... There was something inherent in Waythink that overdramatized a lot of things

That was a good article -Thanks HAP--I ve always been interested in the dynamism of the English Language..Interesting article from OKC as well, Old Testament marriage many times was a "multipartner" arrangement, I dont know when these "wordchangers" decided on their own meaning ( ) i.e. that it had always meant "one man and one woman". Where exactly is it defined that way except in "the traditions of men" Another interesting point on the definition from a biblical standpoint here: Maybe if some decide to follow the constitutional amendment route, while they are at it they could also vote on a biblical amendment and petition God to outlaw the marriage of the lamb and the bride based on their own decided definition of what a marriage really should be.

There was a football player with the New England Patriots named Irving Fryar(Ithink) that got paraded around quite a bit until he got involved in a drug bust I heard everything from people in the bands of Kansas, Foghat and the Billy Joel band to Stokely Carmichael-there were alot of rumors, I never really saw anything substantiated on any of these people. I dont know why they had such a thing for parading any old 2nd, 3rd, 4th or 10th tier "celebrities" around. Bob Donaldson a good rodeo clown ( and Im sure a good guy) was involved for awhile but to hear LCM drool over him, he was the second coming of Mickey Mantle. Any celebrities who werent involved were generally believed to be 'born of the seed of the serpent'

I was watching the landing last night(well what they had of it anyway on CNN) with a friend who is the engineer who designed the robotic arm that will be digging into and analyzing the martian soil. It was a very tense and exciting moment. Although the scientific experiments are a bit over my everyday concerns,It was really cool to have someone from the 'inside' to explain and answer my questions while it was landing. Its quite a project just to land something on Mars, never mind undertake the experiments it will be doing. Im looking forward to more photos and findings as they become available. The search for evidences of life apperently are going quite well

I havent been following the Tejas catching situation all that closely so far, I remember looking in the middle of the winter and was very impressed about what I read about Teagarden---Hopefully Theo is on it though.. The Red Sox are sound in a lot of areas and of course have alot of big names, but to me the crucial and one irreplaceble piece that has transformed the team over the last five years or so has been Jason Varitek. He's underrated compared to alot of the others, but he is the real and almost invisible glue and the leader that puts it all together and makes it all possible. At 35 and on the downside of his career he will be a tough one to replace. You have an abundance of catching --I wouldnt be surprised if at some point a deal is put the works--Hopefully yous guys will still be in it and clawing at the trade deadline and need someone up front Except Im hoping this time the fortunes will be a little reversed (from last year that is ) The deadline trade in the mid90's with Seattle when the Red Sox gave up the immortal Heathcliff Slocumb for two minor leaguers Derek Lowe and Jason Varitek was one of the best trades in club history. I'll take a repeat of that type of thing anyday :)

I havent followed every post in this thread. I really dont get the "God thinks such and such " arguments, as if someone could be presumptuous enough to assume to know exactly what an infinite and timeless God thinks. Various denominations,--old respected denominations--that have proven their worth-- who are no less God seekers than the most ardent fundamentalists, have had no problem marrying gays (Presbyterians, United Church of Christ, some Episcopalian churches, as well as the Unitarians and Reformed Judaism--there may be others Im too lazy to look them up--) in spiritual ceremonies to seal and confirm their sacred vows. If the Church sees fit to perform the ceremony and join two in matrimony.-- is it somehow right for the state to recognize and honor some churches practices and not recognize others? If thats the case it becomes dangerously close to having a State religion that dictates matters of doctrine and practice I doubt that there is anyone here on either side of the argument who advocates that

Will do! I know Theo's far from perfect and i'd love to have Gabbard and Murphy back (well and Hanley Ramirez would be fun to watch too--but considering we got Josh Beckett AND Mike Lowell for him I guess thats OK)... Also considering that we have 9 quality starting pitchers anyway (yea really--they are shuttling back and forth to AAA), and an overloaded outfield, I guess its OK fo this round...but if yous guys are feeling guilty I still have my eye on Taylor Teagarden for ayear or two down the road--feel free to ship him on up!! ....I still cant believe that the Brewers gave Gagne $10M ...... For no particular reason other than Im still somewhat amazed...Ive been watching the knuckleballer Tim Wakefield for years now, Its been mostly on Tv and occasionally at a game with seats somewhere fairly distant but last week was the first time I was very close in with seats near the plate while he was pitching. Ay Flippin'Carumba! The knuckleball up close is INSANE! No wonder he has to have his own catcher, who regualrly has a bunch of PBs in a game No wonder batters have trouble hitting it. Ive known this for years -but viewing it up close --YIKES-- When its on-it floats in as slow as a little league pitch then darts at these incredibly insane weird angles as it nears the plate, Every one is different-- no two break the same. I doubt Wakefield even knows where they are going... When its on--I dont see how anyone can hit it, of course its not "always on", a few that dont "knuckle" throughout the game are like little league pitches begging to be hammered. Fun to watch, I dont remember too many times Ive watched a 65mph pitch and had my jaw drop or spontaneously break into laughter at the sheer absurdity of it --but I did the other night... I like Tim Wakefield--- a great team guy -In the next life Im gonna learn the knuckleball

Here's Lucia Micarelli--You generally dont here this type of thing on your trip to Symphony Hall

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