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I dont remember the summer of '69.. My next door neighbor, Ed, was in the Zappa band for 15 years. Among other things e plays gongs and bells now--I dont know what that has to do with the moon landing but his music is celestial by any standards.I sometimes think Ive been far past the moon when I hear him play

Maybe..Id genuinely be interested in talking to the "Great Man of God"...I talk to just about everyone I meet about their spiritual beliefs eventually...normal people, "important' people--It makes no matter to me....Some of it is very interesting and enlightening, some of it is completely nuts--- but I do give them the opportunity to speak. In some manner or another I learn something from it all. Some of it is really extraordinary stuff BUT I have never before heard anyone (except in way circles)refer to themselves as some great one, even the higher ups in well known organizations. I have also found very very few people in life that remain so hidden and secretive as way folk or now the SOWERS. Why is that? Whats the big deal? and what exactly are they afraid of if "God" indeed is on their side? All the badgering in the world wouldnt change whatever great thing that they have found if its genuine---If its just a concoction of course it will be laid bare in short order...so far they arent even willing to talk or be open. As an organization on the free market with big claims they have opened themselves up to honest inquiry. If they refuse to acknowledge and answer simple questions it says much more about them, than all the badgering in the world could ever lay on them

It pretty much already has--Here and at a hundred other sites--Even 99% of the people who once believed it have grown up and seen it for the swiss cheese theology that it is and moved on. It never held water and it certainly hasnt held any water over time. It never was the E=mc2 great revelation to change the world, it was more like a glass of Tang that was empty of any nutrients and had a very short shelf life. If it was released today it would be laughed at as a bizarre relic of a bygone era--I dont extend much to the honchos but they must know that

Well I wont check any questions that have to do with open or transparent, honest, truthful or forthcoming--Those can immediately be checked right off the list I will however give them an "A" for hiding well under the bushes, as well as fearfulness. I'll give them great marks for those, although those arent personally my top priorities of things to look for in a religious group. ....St. Vic Jr. come on over---Where are you? Show us what you've got--we are all interested in what you have to say- Stand and be counted Dude

Very Zappaesque. Frank zappa named his daughter Moon Unit. I remember that I saved all the papers-- The only one that I can find now is this one:

...I never got the inactive notice. I did sign a greencard about 30 years ago that said that i could take their Piffle class as many times as I wanted forever for no charge whenever and wherever it is offered...sort of like a legal agreement I know its a huge waste of time but if I got in an ornery mood I might push the issue, This time I wouldnt be "holding my questions" or holding my tongue either.....

Wheres love come from? wheres love go? Tim OBrien <object width="560" height="340"><param name="movie" value=" name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object>

True enough..its like the year without a summer around here--We have floods today, the local paper this morning had pics the Pittsfield team kayaking around the outfield --sort of tough to get in the mood. My grandmother said she saved her marriage in 30's by becoming a Red Sox fan--interesting how much baseball can be an underlying aspect of peoples lives... Some friends in a mixed marriage (She a Red Sox fan-He a Yankees fan) had a boy-child last week. They are good folks but the subject that has caused the most friction is whether to decorate his room with Red Sox stuff or Yankees stuff. Two very level headed, kind, big hearted, intelligent people who get along very well and are together on just about everything else have actually had a row about this...and he barely has his eyes open yet We'll see how that works out

Im still waiting on that picture which does sound cool ---and more or less feeling the same way---I dont know what it is---Im much busier than normal this year which could be it or maybe IM having an off year as a fan...I too enjoyed the climb uphill for many years and living on every pitch--This year Im sort of taking it or leaving it way more than normal so far... It would be interesting to hear about this so called list--Nomar just gave an interesting interview saying that he knew players that skipped the tests in 2003 so that a NUMBER, (not a name) would be posted to the list so that testing would eventually be manditory. According to him there are only numbers on the list,no names, and if the tests reached a certain percentage of ML'ers then testing would become manditory I dunno--whatever---i am tired of the whole thing----It is odd that a list sealed by a judge would be leaked. I wouldnt want to be the lawyer who leaked it -that cant be good...

Same old story ---same old song and dance. I talk to just about everyone that I meet and I have NEVER met anyone, anywhere as fearful as wayfers or the offshoots when it comes to discussing their spiritual beliefs--- Heck I know crack addicts that deal more honestly. So far the representatives of SOWERS are proving by their absence what little mettle they have and how tiny their beliefs are.

just afew things Ive heard today..... Emmylou Harris--Deeper Well <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value=" name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>and.....I have to get me one of these cello banjos <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value=" name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

Interesting that you should use colors as an analogy. As a stained glass guy I look through colored glass all the time. To me colors do have a spiritual energy to them..To gether they can form some sort of transformative mysticism at times that are only symbolic of 'something' that cannot be seen behind them but it can occasionally be sensed... In a literal sense some of it you can see through a bit , some of it you cant at all-- All of it filters and obscures the reality on the other side of the glass, sometimes all you can see is an elusive glimpse or a shadow of what may be happening on the outside. I suppose someone could write a huge long poetic description of 'heaven'. I sure can't. I think the best and most accurate description for me is 'I dont know' and 'We see through a glass darkly' is about as close as I ever expect to get on this side Whoever said that said a mouthful

well its a tough question , one not easily answered, especially by someone like myself who spends the majority of my time concerned with baser things... i could vote "all of the above" and still be woefully short, although the entire known universe seems a little bit broad-and I really dont identify hardly at all with "my stuff" -ultimately somehow I think everything is interrelated on some energy level, including I, so although I may word the choices differently I'd head in that direction ...I dreamed I was flowing rivers of vibrating colors just the other night...it was a passing sensation but the glimpse was real enough in that moment....I dont ever expect to know fully the depths of soul or spirit (or whatever you would want to call it) but the mystery of unknowing is more than enough to keep my sense of wonder alive. To me, "i" varies and dances and flits around time and space changing moment to moment Right now Im a few electrical impulses dashing through time and space and showing up on your screen In a few minutes I will be something else There is no telling for sure---we're the stuff that dreams are made of....

There was a long time between the landing and the time that Neil Armstrong actually walked down the ladder. I was watching the TV with my family and after what seemed like hours of Walter Cronkite explaining it from every conceivable angle and no action I was getting antsy and bored --my friend Bobby Lynch walked by-so I bolted out the door for a game of wiffleball, with my mother screeching You're missing history!!..."call me if anything happens ma".. I checked back in about 20 minutes later--still nothing---so I went for a ride on my stingray bike over near my friends house, we hung out for awhile near a big rock then I thought I should get back...I got back home a few minutes later, the fam hadnt moved at all, i got a minor scolding then sat on the floor in front of the TV....a few minutes later Cronkite started talking about the door to the LEM opening--which was the first action in hours--- about 15 minutes or so later Armstrong sort of floated down the stairs, stood on the bottom for a minute then stepped off and uttered his famous words I had good dreams that night

I dont know how to upload photos directly to here.. I upload mine to photobucket.com then link them direct.It took me a few minutes for me to figure it out the first time but it wasnt that hard...and for Bill Veecks leg it would be worth it! Cooly story about Strasberg...and very much in line with the idea of the shrine--thanks for that

The odd thing is that if what they have is so unbelievably wonderful as they tell you, you would think that they would want to share it with the rest of the world and correct our misperceptions instead of running and hiding, or just never coming out of the wood work in the first place. Isnt there something about "hiding your light under a bushel". I have sat with Bishops and Archbishops, Higher ups of various denominations and 95% of the ones that I have talked to are straightforward and honest even in regards to the obvious problems that they face. In other words even if I dont agree with them on certain matters at the least they deal with things in an honorable way as part of their 'witness', most of them I have genuine appreciation for....and although I would never use a phrase like "man of God" to describe anyone, some I admire and might consider it if I had no other words available to me. I really dont understand the "we have some great secret that you dont" mentality, or the John Lynn type driveby "buy my book" postings of a few years ago either. Christianity especially the organized kind is hard enough to get my head around under the best of circumstances let alone someone slamming me with "buy my stuff" "Bumper Sticker Christianity" replete with false bravado, secrecy, and an attitude does nothing for me, it holds about as much spiritual appeal as Billy Mays hawking OxyClean or Vince selling ShamWows (absolutely amazing!!! act now!! bring your credit card!!) on 3 AM TV. I'll give him a chance by fercryinoutloud how the heck does he expect to convince anyone of anything with his current stance. He seems like a good kid, Working all these hours I hope that he is saving up for either his years of therapy or his years of alcoholism when it finally dawns on him how they took advantage of him and his naivete. O---and have the damn courage to speak up Saint Vic Jr, Im talking to you, paint your own damn house you lazy weasel

Just like his at bats and fielding now----you hardly knows he's there EDIT: as if on cue I went to the sports page after posting this and found Julio has been given his walking papers--DFA'd, cut, fired--however you want to put it...he's lookin for a new job today Adios Julio

I was polite to the kid and even went to bat for him on the first few pages, I see now that most of everyone else had the right idea all along.--nothings changed, its the same sold sh!t--even when given the opportunity The top dogs of the offshoots are scared to death that they will be exposed for what they are here, so stay behind their facades and illusions instead of having an honest one on one conversation like anyone else that you have to deal with..... Calebs comment about "being covered in cow crap" was truer than he knows

I was wondering why my rep was going down! I was ready to go buy a black leather jacket, get some neck tattoos,and maybe push a few old ladies around after seeing that... I wouldnt like Halliday with the Yanks either... he is tough but he is beatable( I was wondering if his stock dipped some during the All-Star game). Who wouldnt want to play for Boston or NY? but I have to wonder if JP Riccardi will deal him within the division, making his job to overtake the two giants all that much harder.. Halliday has to OK the trade--after considering the success of pitchers that go from the AL to NL, I think he could be really dominant if he went to the NL and could make abigger name for himself than he has over the years by being in Toronto. of course---what do I know?

Apparently "The no personal integrity christianity because I dont have to be and Im better than you anyway " is still the alive and well, at least until we get some indication otherwise. That doctrine always bugged me.. Since SIT as they do it is some proof of ultimate acceptance then even the sense of right and wrong eventually gets wiped out. Grandpa Saint Vic used to talk about "having No sense of sin, guilt or condemnation". Later we found out he had a steady stream of young girls serving him while teaching this...What a crock, what he taught as 'renewed mind" was no more than a "seared conscience".

Ive heard (of course what do I know) that the Jays want 4 TOP prospects for Halliday- Penny has actually been good in his role as a 3 or 4 starter-and from what Ive read Buchholz would be starter on just about any other team. There are others (Bowden,Bard)who could be good ML starters by '10 or '11 who have also been in the rumor mill---I wouldnt do it. The upside isnt worth the cost to me. Buchholz is getting what might be a showcase start tonight.He has been tearing through AAA but there is really no room for him right now, he apparently is not that happy that he is not pitching in the bigs...Somehow they may make room for him or are getting ready to deal him off somewhere(hopefully in a package with Julio Lugo)maybe for abat at 3rd. Its all conjecture at this point, just my annual July ritual to guess completely wrong Id trade Julio Lugo for a hot, flat domestic beer or a piece of prechewed gum at this and still feel like I got the better end of the deal..

This thread has been dormant for awhile. I just got this video in an email about the amazingly decorated trucks and buses in Pakistan. I didnt know exactly where to post it, so elected to resurrect this thread <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value=" name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

Dont scare me like that Bolsh--the way you posted I wasnt sure if it was a done deal--I had to go check....Im on the fence whether to go for Halliday or not---I'd love to have him but I'd hate to give up the prospects...most of those kids are just too good and the future looks bright with them all around--- I know that I'd hate for him to end up on the Yanks--and even that Im conflicted about-It wouldnt be the end of the world because it would further deplete their farm system... Honestly I'd prefer he left the division all together I think he'd be a great fit for the Rangers or could be as dominant as Sabathia was last year if he went to someone in the NL --Phillies maybe?

Well that would show us some things wouldnt it? Someone else still has to do his thinking and decision making for him, there is a hierarchy and control issues, and personal responsibility is still near nil He personally told us that he'd take questions. If the student who sat at the feet of the great MOG St. Vic Jr cannot do something as simple as keeping his word on a very simple matter what does that tell us? Silence tells us just as much as words at this point, no matter what the angle, whether he bailed on us, or if someone told him to bow to the organizations first it doesnt speak well of either the organization or him. So far he is holding us, as well as himself, in disregard. I gave this young man a fair opportunity to open up and share as he would (check back to the first few pages)--so far I am not impressed

This is getting annoying ie. lets have a conversation -- then leave everyone hanging and 'skip town' look Caleb-- you arent some exception to the rule--we are all very busy--if you are going to stick to your word and represent your org as you said that you would then start participating and answering. If you are just another untrustable run of the mill BS'er ---well----we are already getting that message by your disappearance and lack of honest communication with us Its not too late to redeem yourself but your stock in my eyes is going down every passing day that you blow us off---- One thing that I can say at this point is that your silence and absence speaks as loudly as your words, even more so, and so far represents the core of the organization you graduated from very aptly. Promises promises and when it comes to owning up---zilch So far you represent them well